Roberto Martinez discussion

[Ihaters]

Jesus, under Smith we should have been nigh on impossible to score against, then.

Yeah, sorry should of specified... The advantage to fielding 7 decent defensive minded players

 

[Ihaters]

To call Baines and Coleman defensive players is an insult to football.

They are defenders even if they do bomb forwards.. Their primary role and starting position on the field is at the back adopting a defensive stance.

 

[Goat]

They are defenders even if they do bomb forwards.. Their primary role and starting position on the field is at the back adopting a defensive stance.

Nope.

 

[TheBlueGibbon]

They are defenders even if they do bomb forwards.. Their primary role and starting position on the field is at the back adopting a defensive stance.

They play more as wing backs than traditional full backs, they are basically midfielders.

 

[Goat]

 

[davek]

We play in the opposition half. That's what we do. We're Everton FC. We boss other teams about.

 

[Ihaters]

He's a defender that goes forward, don't quite see your point? You saying they don't defend or start in the attacking position of a midfielder?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...d-must-start-leighton-baines-over-ashley-cole

 

[Goat]

He's a defender that goes forward, don't quite see your point? You saying they don't defend or start in the attacking position of a midfielder?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...d-must-start-leighton-baines-over-ashley-cole

Hes a wingback.

Its not 1985 anymore.

 

[Carlito]

I really hope Martinez strikes lucky in the transfer market soon.

Getting Arteta and Pienaar for a combined £4m was massive for Moyes, and I think something similar needs to happen if Martinez is to make a stronger push for the Champions League next season. He certainly deserves it.

 

[AndyZ]

The postive side to having 7 defense minded players on the field.

He's a defender that goes forward, don't quite see your point? You saying they don't defend or start in the attacking position of a midfielder?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...d-must-start-leighton-baines-over-ashley-cole

the point is Coleman and Baines are, in fact, offensive minded players who happen to be defenders. Not "defensive minded" as you erroneously grouped them above.

 

[Ihaters]

Hes a wingback.

Its not 1985 anymore.

They are part of our back 4, part of our clean sheets and great defensive record and should be given credit for their part in our decent defensive record, they are part of 7 defensive players, even though they attack as well imo.
But I do agree... its not 1985 anymore.

 

[Ihaters]

the point is Coleman and Baines are, in fact, offensive minded players who happen to be defenders. Not "defensive minded" as you erroneously grouped them above.

I would say they think about defense first and would only go when they are covered, whereas a midfielder or attacking player wouldn't do this, they will constantly be concerned about the gap behind them and are therefore defensive minded because of the importance of the hole they vacate.
That's not to say they are not brave and use their quality to push back the opponent defense and look to go forwards, but I would be very concerned if they didn't think about what was behind them before thinking about what was in front given their position on the pitch.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

I still want them to be able to defend...Seamus has come on leaps and bounds. Proud of that kid.

 

[dannyboy]

I really hope Martinez strikes lucky in the transfer market soon.

Getting Arteta and Pienaar for a combined £4m was massive for Moyes, and I think something similar needs to happen if Martinez is to make a stronger push for the Champions League next season. He certainly deserves it.

Strange thing to say. He'll get what he deserves if he selects the right targets.

It's not usually down to luck when a manager finds a bargain who turns out to be a brilliant player.

 

[Furey1878]

In the latest interview on the OS, Martinez says that we've lacked that bit of luck we needed when we played Spurs and Chelsea away. He went on to say that he feels that football just can't go on to be that unlucky for Everton.

He clearly does not know Everton lol