Lukaku interview about Anelka - liverpool fans kicking up....

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dholliday said:
Hate speech against any race/religion/nationality of people is rightfully censored and outlawed. For hate speech against such is how many crimes against humanity were justified.





jesus wept, leave it out will ya? This is about Anelka, Lukaku and the quenelle gesture. Where did you get kopites and Hillsborough from? Self-congratulating ourselves on how we acted over Hillsborough in this thread is inappropriate.


For those interested in the quenelle, here's the Wiki for it:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quenelle_%28gesture%29
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Calm down. He was spot on, by the way.
 

dholliday said:
Hate speech against any race/religion/nationality of people is rightfully censored and outlawed. For hate speech against such is how many crimes against humanity were justified.



jesus wept, leave it out will ya? This is about Anelka, Lukaku and the quenelle gesture. Where did you get kopites and Hillsborough from? Self-congratulating ourselves on how we acted over Hillsborough in this thread is inappropriate.


For those interested in the quenelle, here's the Wiki for it:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quenelle_%28gesture%29
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Where is the hate speech though? He didn't run up to a camera and shout racist remarks, he didn't do a post match interview with racist remarks.... If I ran up to a British flag and saluted it after scoring some ****er out there would be offended and complain. World is full of moaners who don't give a toss about the issue until someone makes a big deal about it and they all jump on the band wagon.

As I said, I couldn't care if he is banned or not, I do think it has been blown out of proportion though. If nobody brought it up after he done it 99.9% of people would not have known it happened. Now it has all the publicity he wanted it to have.
 
Am I the only one who cant help but giggle at the comedic irony of a Chelsea player, on loan to us, getting the RS into a right old lather about something they kind of have form in?
 
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roydo said:
Am I the only one who cant help but giggle at the comedic irony of a Chelsea player, on loan to us, getting the RS into a right old lather about something they kind of have form in?
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...and have a player themselves with a pic of him doing the salute?

Defo.
 

Portland Toffee said:
Where is the hate speech though? He didn't run up to a camera and shout racist remarks, he didn't do a post match interview with racist remarks.... If I ran up to a British flag and saluted it after scoring some ****er out there would be offended and complain. World is full of moaners who don't give a toss about the issue until someone makes a big deal about it and they all jump on the band wagon.

As I said, I couldn't care if he is banned or not, I do think it has been blown out of proportion though. If nobody brought it up after he done it 99.9% of people would not have known it happened. Now it has all the publicity he wanted it to have.
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It's a racist gesture mate. How would it go down if Barkley slotted one in the derby and started frog-marching down the touch line? I don't know the full story about the past history of the quenelle, I know it's racist and racism is bad m'kay.
 

Portland Toffee said:
Where is the hate speech though? He didn't run up to a camera and shout racist remarks, he didn't do a post match interview with racist remarks.... If I ran up to a British flag and saluted it after scoring some ****er out there would be offended and complain. World is full of moaners who don't give a toss about the issue until someone makes a big deal about it and they all jump on the band wagon.

As I said, I couldn't care if he is banned or not, I do think it has been blown out of proportion though. If nobody brought it up after he done it 99.9% of people would not have known it happened. Now it has all the publicity he wanted it to have.
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Read the article below, which answers some of your questions. Some portions excerpted below. This is not a "neutral gesture"

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/jan/21/west-brom-nicolas-anelka-reaction-quenelle

The disciplinary charge from the Football Association is both necessary and overdue and it can only be hoped Anelka receives a fittingly long ban for his "special dedication" in support of his friend, the so-called humorist Dieudonné M'bala M'bala. If they are friends, Anelka cannot be unaware of Dieudonné's history, his convictions for antisemitism, his reference to the Holocaust as "memorial pornography", the reasons why he is banned from public appearances in France and the background to a salute that gives his followers just about enough greyness and deniability to squirm their way out of normal legal responses.

Anelka's argument is that it was an innocent gesture but he insults our intelligence by making out he is good enough friends with Dieudonné to dedicate a goal to him, but not good enough to know about the man. Perhaps the FA could bring along some of those charming photos that can be found on the internet of Dieudonné's acolytes performing outside Auschwitz and other places of great sensitivity. Then, perhaps, they could use their powers so we do not have to see Anelka on a football pitch for a long time indeed.

Alan Cleverley, secretary of the West Bromwich Albion Official Supporters Club, summed it up pretty accurately. "It sounds as if he did it on purpose because he knew the match was being shown live in France. If the book gets thrown at him, I've got no sympathy whatsoever."
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Anelka was the only real class performer on the pitch last night. I imagine that he will be banned so Liverpool don't have to face him.
 

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