Kone Signs on 3 Year Deal

[Zatara]

Lets just see what happens come Aug 30th. I will react depending on the position we are in then.

I have a feeling that Baines wont go....Fellaini? Who knows. If the bid doesn't come in from Arsenal, then maybe he wont go anywhere. Kone coming in will do what exactly? What harm would it do for us? At the very least he can help improve Anichebe, can provide a foil for Jelavic, and do his running while he's on his toes in the box, while being perfectly capable of leading the line himself if needed. What about sell on value? If Kone can score the goals that Jelavic missed last season, it'll be worth points to us, and everyone know points make prizes. Far too much judgement on here over his age.

As for Zatara saying that if we dont buy Kone, sell Jelavic and Anichebe to give us £13.5m (sic) to spend on two strikers..... Just doesn't seem like good business to me. Your reducing by a potential 3 players, to buy 2 players who are in the same price bracket as two of the three you jibbed...... Just seems non-sensical. What 2 strikers would you be uying for £6.5m that are considerably younger and/or better than Kone, Anichebe and Jelavic? Or are you saying spend £10m on one, and £3.5 on another? What happens if you have a £10m injured player?

Hi mate, all im saying is that if Kone is seen as 1st choice above jelacic and anichebe then martinez will have 3 average players.

13.5mil (ish) + whatever else is incoming..

I'd say either

A-- Do the lot on a superstar then you have him + mirallas + long+mcaleny+veliosto alternate.

B-- Do 10 odd mil on the forward and use 3.5mil + on someone whose young with potential...with the same players as above alternating when necessary.

C-- Have Anichebe/Kone/Jelavic as a aver-garbage strikeforce.

 

[Carlito]

For the money Kone is rumoured to be costing I'd sooner see Everton bring in Darren Bent. He's the same age and is a much more consistent finisher.

Kone would have been great under Moyes, but I'd hoped the plan for next season would be to get the striker on the end of chances rather than have him focus on creating space for midfield runners. It could still work out well though; he was very good at Levante and decent enough at Wigan.

 

[Zatara]

Absolute ridiculous to think that every signing we make has to be resellable. Distin has been well worth the £5M we paid for him and we get feck all back on him. At £5M distin was a great signing apart from a fecking shocking back pass at wembley!

What you seem to be completely forgetting here is that Rooney £28M, Rodwell £12M and Lescott (23M bought for £5M) massively balance the books in Moyes' favour so everyone waxing lyrical about how ****ing great he was at signing players is utter ****. Beattie, Koldrup and Bily tell me that for damn sure.

We simpy are not in a position to buy £20M players aged 23 simply because if they work they will make money. What if they dont? How sellable was Veron? How sellable was Robinho? How much will Torres get Chelsea back? £50M? not ****in likely! Sometimes players are signed short term to do a job. Robin Van Persie - prime example. Massive fee for his age, won them the prem, fee back in spades!

PLayers fail at any age, any level and any transfer fee.

To say we must only sign players who can be resold is garbage. If a player makes his transfer worth the fee he has paid for himself regardless if we get any money back for him.

I guarantee anyway that if Kone bangs 15 goals a season + for the next 2 seasons a new promoted club would rip your fecking arms off at £6M - with their solitary aim that season being to stay in the premier league.

To say this is totally insane is an understatement.

If the club didnt sell players they would be massively screwed.

Howard
Hibbert
Distin
Jagielka
Heitinga
Baines
Osman
Pienaar
Jelavic

In 2 seasons will all be either finished/above 30 years old with no resake value and you think signing another one is sensible?

Kone will be 30 in november...so when hes 31/31 you think a team will pay 6mil for him if he delivers (delivers what btw as an average forward)

Sorry but this is an idiotic deal by Martinez.

 

[ijjysmith]

I don't agree with Zatara.

 

[Arteta10]

Hi mate, all im saying is that if Kone is seen as 1st choice above jelacic and anichebe then martinez will have 3 average players.

13.5mil (ish) + whatever else is incoming..

I'd say either

A-- Do the lot on a superstar then you have him + mirallas + long+mcaleny+veliosto alternate.

B-- Do 10 odd mil on the forward and use 3.5mil + on someone whose young with potential...with the same players as above alternating when necessary.

C-- Have Anichebe/Kone/Jelavic as a aver-garbage strikeforce.

Just throwing it out there for arguments sake....but what if Jelavic returns to the form of his first season, and Kone (in a better team with more service) goes on to score 15-20 goals? We still looking at an aver-garbage strikeforce?

 

[LocalNative]

If you ignore the 3 years in which he only scored 1 goal he has been great

Exactly.

id like to once more ask.

Apart from when we played Wigan and a few highlights on MOTD....how many people actually watched all of Kones performances last season?

All seems like bull**** snobbery to me just cos were signing players from Wigan and not Madrid!

I seen Kone 3 times last season...and the [Poor language removed] terrorised us pretty much more than any other forward we met all season for any side i seen us play against.

Irony? He obviously didn't terrorise enough defences otherwise he would be wanted by more teams than us.

 

[nsno-chris]

If you ignore the 3 years in which he only scored 1 goal he has been great

There was a couple of factors which you fail to acknowledge.

1 - He had a serious injury in 08 i think
2 - A lot of them appearances were off the subs bench; Fabiano and Kanoute were leading the line and had a very good partnership.

His first season was a bust, then he had about 18 games in 2 years after that. Bar Seville, he has 1 in 2.5 strike rate, not bad

 

[Phenom]

I don't agree with Zatara.

Does anyone?

 

[Housequake]

For the money Kone is rumoured to be costing I'd sooner see Everton bring in Darren Bent. He's the same age and is a much more consistent finisher.

I always say we should have invested a chunk of the £24m from Lescott in Bent, as opposed to two centre halves and another left sided midfielder.

 

[nsno-chris]

Exactly.



Irony? He obviously didn't terrorise enough defences otherwise he would be wanted by more teams than us.

Did you say the same about Tim Cahill, it was only us and Palace after him.

Football is more than just buying a player, its a player that fits into a system the manager wants; whose to say Kone is even going go start up front, if he goes 3-4-3/4-3-3 he may play out wide, move Pienaar in and have Jelavic as the striker.

 

[paulbefc]

If he scores no less than 15 goals this season, then he's paid his fee back, in my book. As long as the rest of the signings are good i.e. not Aiden McGeady, we're laughing. If we sign Kone and McGeady for a combined 9-10m though, RM is high.

 

[LocalNative]

Did you say the same about Tim Cahill, it was only us and Palace after him.

Football is more than just buying a player, its a player that fits into a system the manager wants; whose to say Kone is even going go start up front, if he goes 3-4-3/4-3-3 he may play out wide, move Pienaar in and have Jelavic as the striker.

No, but I knew Cahill wasn't 29 and had more than one good season.

Playing Kone out wide sounds like a Moyes formation.

 

[D410]

He's been in the job a day & a half & you reckon he's been played like a piano & predict (as fact) that incoming sale monies will not be available to re-invest.

Well done, even by your standards that's a plum of a post lid.

Sales money will be made available after suntan bob has had 1st dibs to satisfy debt. We won,t be seeing big tkt players coming in if the club sell key players. Martinez wants to keep the squad together ..it,s not going to happen and he will loose his key players and that work to move those players on has been going on before the new manager got here.

Enjoy the summer.

 

[caught]

Does anyone?

Women's legs agree to open when he wiggles his nose. His 'nose' being what he likes to call his p*nis.

Does anyone have that list of Martinez's Wigan signings? Seems to me that for at least every young Moses/McCarthy signing there's also an older Maloney/Alcaraz/Ramis who he felt, regardless of age, was the right guy for the job.

 

[Tree13]

To say this is totally insane is an understatement.

If the club didnt sell players they would be massively screwed.

Howard
Hibbert
Distin
Jagielka
Heitinga
Baines
Osman
Pienaar
Jelavic

In 2 seasons will all be either finished/above 30 years old with no resale value and you think signing another one is sensible?

Kone will be 30 in november...so when hes 31/31 you think a team will pay 6mil for him if he delivers (delivers what btw as an average forward)

Sorry but this is an idiotic deal by Martinez.

I agree with Zatara. Given our financial position, we need to ensure a MAJORITY of our incoming transfers have resale value, unless they are coming in on frees. And even if they all come in on frees, we will still need to sell SOMEONE for a considerable sum within the next eighteen months, in order to fund the replacements for several names on Zatara's list.

We can't just spend £4m here and £5m there AND refuse to sell anyone - we don't have the off-pitch revenue streams to support that plan. We'd go bankrupt.