Moyes Potential Replacement

[ToffeeDan]

From the Porto site (Google translation)

Do not know how it started but the twitter hashtag # VitorFacts getting popular for those who are still far from over Everton are very popular up. Should be anticipating to be a coach full of charisma type Mourinho or so, lol I am beginning to pity them ..

- I still think their antipathy to VP is based on Rodrigues being benched in the CL games - frankly it seems straightforward that the player himself did a Beckford (lied when he wasn't fit). They don't seem to have forgiven him even tho' they did Benfica in the league which must count for something!

 

[Carl Stewart]

Come on Watford!!!!!!!!

Haha - that opens the door for Holloway!!

 

[Kinsale Toffee]

It translate its self mate

Not on my phone it doesn't, how did you get it to do that?

 

[maddison]

What a great post, I totally agree with this. I'd be happy with either Pereira or Martinez so hopefully the best salesman for EFC in the world has managed to convince one of these 2 to take the job.
God help us if they both turn it down

For me it's not just Martinez relegation that concerns me, although it does greatly. It's that if you take the FA cup win out of the equation he's only proved he's a good League one manager, and an OK Championship manager, and a poor Premiership manager. That FA cup win owed a lot to Everton being dreadful on the day and Man City being off on the final. There was a shed load of luck involved in that run. I just don't rate him.

This experience he has, is experience of not being that good really.

 

[IRO1977]

From the Porto site (Google translation)

Do not know how it started but the twitter hashtag # VitorFacts getting popular for those who are still far from over Everton are very popular up. Should be anticipating to be a coach full of charisma type Mourinho or so, lol I am beginning to pity them ..

I think we all know he's not the charismatic outspoken Mourinho type, it's just that we don't care as long as he wins

 

[maddison]

More chance leading us to the mighty Championship.

Nagh, he couldn't win the Championship and he failed to get Swansea out of it too. He left before they came up.

Just realised I read your point wrong, but it's funnier if I leave it like this. From a few posts I've read today, it's clear there are a few people who think that Martinez brought Swansea up, when he failed to actually do so and left for Wigan.

 

[hktoffee]

For those who voted for Laudrup...wondering if you prefer Pereira or Martinez?

 

[Steve Wigan]

1056 pages, you got all the reasons why we don't want him. In sum, he has a terrible record in PL. He is inept in defending. He had 4 seasons to fix the defensive line but failed to do so. He also has an awful winning rate. He had built a team to relegate etc.

None of those reasons suggest he would or could not succeed at Everton, with better players, as many posters have said. Everything you say about Martinez may well be true, but he has a lot of creit given to him by many people in football, and the records of all of the speculated potential managers contain blips and failures that could be classed as negatives. It usually boils down to whether a manager 'fits' a club or not. What is the average reign of a Prem manager? I think Brenda is the second or third longest serving, and he's done very little time ! Theres a good chance that whoever we employ, Periera or anybody, will not be a success, just as theres a good chance that our previous manager will not cut it at United. Some of the usual management suspects in this counytry, O'Neill, Hughes, etc, fail continually. And if our new manager is a failure, even if initially he has the support of many Evertonians, who will be blamed ? You're allowed on guess.....

 

[njligernj]

From the Porto site (Google translation) Do not know how it started but the twitter hashtag # VitorFacts getting popular for those who are still far from over Everton are very popular up. Should be anticipating to be a coach full of charisma type Mourinho or so, lol I am beginning to pity them .. - I still think their antipathy to VP is based on Rodrigues being benched in the CL games - frankly it seems straightforward that the player himself did a Beckford (lied when he wasn't fit). They don't seem to have forgiven him even tho' they did Benfica in the league which must count for something!

It's more assumptions from people. We are aware he isn't a Mourinho type and he is relatively soft-spoken and "boring" in the media department. Doesn't impact my desire for him to be our next manager one iota.

 

[Jags..class]

Nagh, he couldn't win the Championship and he failed to get Swansea out of it too. He left before they came up.

He got Swansea from league 1 to the Championship and laid the foundations for the club they are now.

 

[hktoffee]

For me it's not just Martinez relegation that concerns me, although it does greatly. It's that if you take the FA cup win out of the equation he's only proved he's a good League one manager, and an OK Championship manager, and a poor Premiership manager. That FA cup win owed a lot to Everton being dreadful on the day and Man City being off on the final. There was a shed load of luck involved in that run. I just don't rate him.

This experience he has, is experience of not being that good really.

Freak result. We only lost once in the league this season. Our home record is 3rd in the league. 3 minutes madness costed us.

 

[Jags..class]

Freak result. We only lost once in the league this season. Our home record is 3rd in the league. 3 minutes madness costed us.

we couldn't even get back into the game, The Wigan game was our biggest game left, our chance of Europe and as soon as we seen Nevile in the line up, we knew Moyes was being negative again.

 

[maddison]

He got Swansea from league 1 to the Championship and laid the foundations for the club they are now.

I was playing a bit of Devils advocate there. He did get them up yes, but he couldn't get them to the premiership and left. I remember him going to Wigan, and saying he'd taken Swansea as far as he thought he could take them. I appreciate you have a different opinion to him than i do, but I just don't rate him.

 

[Marky Andrews]

Haha - that opens the door for Holloway!!

O lord noooooooooo haha hopefully the match just gets stopped and rearranged for another month haha

 

[njligernj]

For those who voted for Laudrup...wondering if you prefer Pereira or Martinez?

I voted Laudrup on day one and have since switched to VP. I think a new poll would be interesting but we aren't allowed.

Theres a good chance that whoever we employ, Periera or anybody, will not be a success, just as theres a good chance that our previous manager will not cut it at United. Some of the usual management suspects in this counytry, O'Neill, Hughes, etc, fail continually.

Absolutely odds-wise the most likely outcome of this manager hunt is that the manager will fail and be fired. To me that's just a fact that goes without saying and lives in the back of our minds which we try to stamp out with wild fantasies of shirtless horse back arrivals and Champions League dreams.