Ihaters
Player Valuation: £35m
What is the alleged asking price these days and who is being believed when they say it?
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What is the alleged asking price these days and who is being believed when they say it?
Don't think we've heard a concrete figure from anyone apart from the rangers chairman.
Ihaters
Player Valuation: £35m
Any idea why he would know the sale price of a club in another country that noone else knows?
steken1
Player Valuation: £70m
Ignoring the Rangers chairman, Trevor Birch said it was £150m or thereabouts on SSN a while back. I can't imagine it'll be lower as the new sky deal kicks in. An astonishing price considering the state of the club and the long term deals which have been signed.
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
The figure that was floating around was £150M, which was the figure that Keith Harris intimated would be 'about' the price needed to buy EFC during an interview with Sky.
The bottom line, is that it's worth what someone is prepared to pay for it & it's patently obvious that the asking price is the stumbling block to it being sold. As if it was for sale for £1, then there'd be a queue of takers, the fact that there's no apparent interest at all, that goes beyond the 'enquiry' stage, tells you all you need to know.
TheBlueGibbon
Player Valuation: £40m
He reportedly had interest in us at one point IIRC according to the Planet Football section in Private Eye a while back.
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If he thinks he had to pay 300-400 million, whether thats true or not, you can see why his interest fizzled out.
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
Green is a no mark in EPL terms & would have been in no position to be talking to EFC about a takeover, unless he was heading up a consortium. I take his words with a pinch of salt, given that he's both clueless & has an axe to grind with EFC.
steken1
Player Valuation: £70m
He was heading a consortium. I agree that he's probably not the most clued up about our situation though.
nigelcoyb
Player Valuation: £25m
THAT is why we must win something absolutely shocking to read that, the board don't help but it's not the only reason.
Coventry ffs.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_valuation provides some clues as to how a business is valued.
Whilst it's not 'that' uncommon for companies to try and use turnover it's pretty rare, and even then it's unlikely that anyone would use a multiple of 2 times turnover, which is roughly what ours is.
For what it's worth, I've never really understood the importance of the stadium to a takeover. It's extremely likely that there are many more fans of the club than there are regulars to Goodison. A quick glance over this forum for instance suggests that there are a good number of people that never/seldom get to games.
One measure often used to determine a companies value is that of customer lock-in, ie how easy is it for them to go elsewhere. With a football club that's very difficult because the vast majority of fans remain fans for life. So we basically have a large number of 'locked in' customers that don't go to matches very often.
As the accounts show though, we're not tapping into this very well at all, with Man Utd earning 10 times as much merchandising income as we do.
We have to remember that the core match going market in Liverpool is not going to offer vast income rises because the area isn't as affluent as London so folks can't afford the prices paid by Spurs or Arsenal fans. A fan survey a few years ago found that the average income of a match going Evertonian was the lowest in the league. We saw from the Kirby project that it would only have raised income by a few million a year.
So we have a good number of fans from outside of the region that a) don't attend matches regularly, and b) may be richer than the average fan. Whilst we may get some money out of these folks via the trickle down from Sky, the merchandising figures show we don't do very well at marketing to this audience at all.
With a new stadium unlikely to happen any time soon, this seems by far the easiest way of growing revenue in the short-term.
Whilst it's not 'that' uncommon for companies to try and use turnover it's pretty rare, and even then it's unlikely that anyone would use a multiple of 2 times turnover, which is roughly what ours is.
For what it's worth, I've never really understood the importance of the stadium to a takeover. It's extremely likely that there are many more fans of the club than there are regulars to Goodison. A quick glance over this forum for instance suggests that there are a good number of people that never/seldom get to games.
One measure often used to determine a companies value is that of customer lock-in, ie how easy is it for them to go elsewhere. With a football club that's very difficult because the vast majority of fans remain fans for life. So we basically have a large number of 'locked in' customers that don't go to matches very often.
As the accounts show though, we're not tapping into this very well at all, with Man Utd earning 10 times as much merchandising income as we do.
We have to remember that the core match going market in Liverpool is not going to offer vast income rises because the area isn't as affluent as London so folks can't afford the prices paid by Spurs or Arsenal fans. A fan survey a few years ago found that the average income of a match going Evertonian was the lowest in the league. We saw from the Kirby project that it would only have raised income by a few million a year.
So we have a good number of fans from outside of the region that a) don't attend matches regularly, and b) may be richer than the average fan. Whilst we may get some money out of these folks via the trickle down from Sky, the merchandising figures show we don't do very well at marketing to this audience at all.
With a new stadium unlikely to happen any time soon, this seems by far the easiest way of growing revenue in the short-term.
Grow up.
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