2025/26 David Moyes

[JLW]

How do we get shut of him with a year on his contract unless he's fired?

A mutual agreement that we pay him off his last year and the club want to go in another direction.

 

[Drico]

I understand the fears of the 'be careful what you wish for' camp but honestly, let's try a bit of positivity.

This is the irony. The people demanding change and a bit of calculated risk-taking are painted as "doomsters" or "negative". Yet, it's the so-called "positive" types who are scared of their own shadows and want to persisit with mediocrity for fear of...well, whatever it is that puts them in their straitjackets.

A confident, positive club thanks David Moyes for his competent cameo and moves on to the next chapter come June.

 

[Kurt.]

He’s going nowhere guys, he’ll be here next season. Don’t matter if you want him or not, the owners won’t sack him.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

He's apparently trying to sort a deal to bring back Jim Martin.

Needs some experience in the kit room.

 

[Drico]

I get people being bored of him, but I find the argument that we should get rid of him early when he's currently on track to deliver what most people thought was a fair target to be a bit illogical.

Hang on. I, for one, thought his job was to 1) rescue us from relegation and 2) achieve stability and when that was done we move on.

To his credit, mission accomplished.

So it's time to move on. Anything else, in my view, is delaying the inevitable and, worst-case scenario, saddling the future manager with Moyes's purchases.

In summary, 18 months was what I thought the man should get. I imagine he got another 12 for contractual reasons (i.e., he may not have come for 18, so they sweetened the deal). But we are treading water holding on to Moyes when he has done his job. Stability has been achieved. Let's move on to the plan A that had to be deferred because Dyche folded like a deck-chair in January 2025.

 

[JLW]

Hang on. I, for one, thought his job was to 1) rescue us from relegation and 2) achieve stability and when that was done we move on.

To his credit, mission accomplished.

So it's time to move on. Anything else, in my view, is delaying the inevitable and, worst-case scenario, saddling the future manager with Moyes's purchases.

In summary, 18 months was what I thought the man should get. I imagine he got another 12 for contractual reasons (i.e., he may not have come for 18, so they sweetened the deal). But we are treading water holding on to Moyes when he has done his job. Stability has been achieved. Let's move on to the plan A that had to be deferred because Dyche folded like a deck-chair in January 2025.

The same with Allardyce, he got 18 months when he knew he was only there for half a season.

 

[wandyr79]

Hang on. I, for one, thought his job was to 1) rescue us from relegation and 2) achieve stability and when that was done we move on.

To his credit, mission accomplished.

So it's time to move on. Anything else, in my view, is delaying the inevitable and, worst-case scenario, saddling the future manager with Moyes's purchases.

In summary, 18 months was what I thought the man should get. I imagine he got another 12 for contractual reasons (i.e., he may not have come for 18, so they sweetened the deal). But we are treading water holding on to Moyes when he has done his job. Stability has been achieved. Let's move on to the plan A that had to be deferred because Dyche folded like a deck-chair in January 2025.

I think this would be fair enough, I also believe that it is not the worst decision to have him for another year, with a succession plan after that.

I suppose it all depends on just how stable we are off the pitch. Too much change in one go has more potential to be messed up, rather than small changes last summer and then further changes this summer with an idea of how the succession will take place next summer.

From the outside, not really knowing anything that is going on behind closed doors, I think there are pros, cons and risks to either scenario.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I think he's done a good job. Garner's been a revelation under his coaching. He had the vision to plug the gap at RB with O'Brien last year.
But I'm just bored of him, he's been such a big part of my trophyless life as an evertonian.
Villa sacked Gerrard and went out and got the fella who's won more europa leagues than he knows what to do with. He turned them around straight away.
Fair play to Moyes, he brought stability, thanks for the season and a half.

Yes and no. While he has improved a lot, Garner has largely played his best football when Gueye has been out of the team. The two occupy the same space. But, Moyes is reluctant to drop Gueye because he covers lots of ground and is more solid defensively that other options.

 

[riddick]

I think this would be fair enough, I also believe that it is not the worst decision to have him for another year, with a succession plan after that.

I suppose it all depends on just how stable we are off the pitch. Too much change in one go has more potential to be messed up, rather than small changes last summer and then further changes this summer with an idea of how the succession will take place next summer.

From the outside, not really knowing anything that is going on behind closed doors, I think there are pros, cons and risks to either scenario.

The issue with keeping him for another year is that he's going to want to bring in players this summer. And "his own players" are likely older players with little to no resale value at all. We went through that with Carlo; pretty much all the players we brought in with him were gone at a fraction of what we paid for them.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Because most people aren't just stuck in a love or hate mode over Moyes.
just having a Yes or No poll, you can guarantee that a big percentage of people that vote will not even see the second option as the answer is already ingrained in them..

More options/takes, makes you look more at the club than the person.
That is how you get closer to the real feeling from the fanbase.

It's most definitely a yes, but or a no, however type question...

 

[MACCA75]

I have never got the point of wanting Moyes out. Not last time, and not this time either.

There does need to be a real honest look at what went wrong last summer window though - lots of rejections/odd signings. There needs to be a clear strategy moving forward.

The whole ‘last summer was entirely down to Moyes’ is just a bit childish tbh.

 

[MACCA75]

The issue with keeping him for another year is that he's going to want to bring in players this summer. And "his own players" are likely older players with little to no resale value at all. We went through that with Carlo; pretty much all the players we brought in with him were gone at a fraction of what we paid for them.

Might not be as black and white though. The older KDH has undoubtedly increased his value, whilst the value of youngsters Dibling/Aznou has plummeted. We need the right balance.

 

[davek]

A mutual agreement that we pay him off his last year and the club want to go in another direction.

AKA 'the sack'.

 

[JLW]

I have never got the point of wanting Moyes out. Not last time, and not this time either.

There does need to be a real honest look at what went wrong last summer window though - lots of rejections/odd signings. There needs to be a clear strategy moving forward.

The whole ‘last summer was entirely down to Moyes’ is just a bit childish tbh.

I think the difference this time is we look like we have stuff in place ie new stadium and better financial deals to actually move forward and at least get close to winning things again.

We have all seen enough of Moyes to think he isn't the man for this, he is suited by no expectation hence why he spent 11 years here last time.

Just because he isn't failing doesn't mean we shouldn't try to improve further, he took Everton from relegation fodder to midtable safe zone, he took PL champions and was heading them into the midtable safezone, he done the same at West Ham, its where he operates and where his abilities as a manager takes teams too, he is the most consistent inconsistent manager out there.

He will leave us in a healthy position from where he took over but this summer for me is the time to hand over to a more progressive manager to make the next step.

 

[Swartzy]

It's most definitely a yes, but or a no, however type question...

But looking at different aspects like giving him the Transfer kitty can change perspective.
looking at just Yes/No probably picks up more reactionary or love/hate responses.


I know in my mind that it's nothing to do with past experiences, it's about now and everything I see on the field, and what I hear off the field.
Just last week threw a massive spanner in the works for me, and that came from his mouth. I didn't think his speaking could suddenly factor in that heavily.