2025/26 David Moyes

Do you think Lukaku joined us because of an ex Wigan manager?
No, I think he joined us (on loan initially) because he was probably promised he'd play and we would make the team work for him (which we did, hence permanent).

Comparing that to "run the channels and fight for your place" is an interesting thought experiment, I don't know which one he'd pick.

FWIW/on topic, I'm not even super against Moyes, he is what he is, but we're gonna be midtable with him forever. It was somewhat obvious this is what would happen as soon as we were "close to Europe", to be honest, it's prime Moyes time to destroy that, even though it's still redeemable.
 
No, I think he joined us (on loan initially) because he was probably promised he'd play and we would make the team work for him (which we did, hence permanent).

Comparing that to "run the channels and fight for your place" is an interesting thought experiment, I don't know which one he'd pick.

FWIW/on topic, I'm not even super against Moyes, he is what he is, but we're gonna be midtable with him forever. It was somewhat obvious this is what would happen as soon as we were "close to Europe", to be honest, it's prime Moyes time to destroy that, even though it's still redeemable.
Well why did you suggest otherwise? For what it's worth, under Moyes we signed Yakubu, Johnson and Beattie who were all sought after "flavour of the month" strikers.
 
I don't have the time or patience for your incessant mini-davek impression here (in fact, it's weird he's not here to lick Martinez' arse, given the topic/thread), sorry mate.

We scored more goals, we conceded less goals, we played better football, none of those join us for Moyes, and even if by some long shot they do - they'd never play. Barkley made 1 mistake and was shipped out on loan the same day so he's in the lower leagues, Deulofeu at the time was 19 so he won't play (and Moyes wouldn't go for him anyway), Lukaku definitely doesn't join as we suit nothing about how he plays with Moyes as he can't get a tune out of forwards like him, Barry maybe joins but he's backup left back obviously, and so on.

I can't wait for the evidence to the contrary to be "but he played Rooney and Vaughan", while we have a 40m player playing once a month for 10 minutes this year, as proof he'd play Deulofeu.
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What do you think we should do? I'm not arsed if we move on from him in the summer (doesn't mean I don't appreciate him either like).

I didn’t want Moyes back as it felt like a regressive step but did think he did well last season & played some decent stuff. Unfortunately he seems to have reverted to type this season.

I particularly don’t like the way some of the more recent acquisitions have been managed.

I’d hope TFG look at who is available & talk to those interested.

Maybe Moyes is the best we can attract at that level but if he stays I wouldn’t expect anything too much different next season.

If TFG are happy to make up the numbers then Moyes can be relied upon to keep us around mid table.

I am hoping they have higher ambitions as the fans deserve better than 30 years without winning anything of note except for the occasional derby. 😞
 
I didn’t want Moyes back as it felt like a regressive step but did think he did well last season & played some decent stuff. Unfortunately he seems to have reverted to type this season.

I particularly don’t like the way some of the more recent acquisitions have been managed.

I’d hope TFG look at who is available & talk to those interested.

Maybe Moyes is the best we can attract at that level but if he stays I wouldn’t expect anything too much different next season.

If TFG are happy to make up the numbers then Moyes can be relied upon to keep us around mid table.

I am hoping they have higher ambitions as the fans deserve better than 30 years without winning anything of note except for the occasional derby. 😞

Moyes is like a dog who always returns to have a go at his own vomit.

His inherent conservativeness will always win out, because he's always looking to keep David Moyes in a job.

He manages for David Moyes, not with the best interests of this club in mind - which demands now us taking the shackles off and trying to get back to the next level above where we are.
 
Why does everyone go on so much about Martinez when he took a Moyes side and finished one place better the following season due to the addition of a top goal scorer on loan?

Not like he took a mid table team to finish 5th, we were a really good team when he took over.

The following 2 seasons of Martinez are what you are moaning about now and calling Moyes a failure for because we are mid table again.

The stupid mental gymnastics of wanting to be right that go on in this place belong in some sort of institution at times.

Moyes has steadied the ship for us again and I for one along with others are grateful.

Would I be arsed if he left at the end of the season? Not really.

Those with grudges though really wanted him to fail and are clearly taking great delight in twisting the knife in the hope he doesn’t get Europe, just so you can bang on about it on here.
 

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