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All sounds very familiar and I agree that it will all come to a head eventually. Disappointingly it isn’t getting much mainstream attention over here.
Ah not that surprising all things considered - we're far away in many ways and "corrupt country does something corrupt and it leads to a massive protest" will only lead to tories going overboard with "those forens innit"
 
Always best to ignore the Tory’s I find. How do you feel about the Euro coming in?
Personally, I'm very okay with it. Hopefully it removes some schemes due to better control enforced by the EU.
The speculation of prices has already begun though, in an ugly way - you can't take the schemes out of us. The most disgusting ones were when a few months ago coffeeshops went from charging 3 lev (~€1.5) for a cup of coffee (for example) to 6 lev, so that from the 1st the coffee could be justified as €3, otherwise it'd be forbidden.

There's a push by our "ultra nationalist" party for a referendum against it, which is about 18 years too late anyway :lol:
 
Personally, I'm very okay with it. Hopefully it removes some schemes due to better control enforced by the EU.
The speculation of prices has already begun though, in an ugly way - you can't take the schemes out of us. The most disgusting ones were when a few months ago coffeeshops went from charging 3 lev (~€1.5) for a cup of coffee (for example) to 6 lev, so that from the 1st the coffee could be justified as €3, otherwise it'd be forbidden.

There's a push by our "ultra nationalist" party for a referendum against it, which is about 18 years too late anyway :lol:
A new currency is a huge change for people and there will always be shysters looking to exploit it. From a purely convenience point of view I loved at the start that I immediately could compare prices on holiday to what was normal at home rather than have to work it out. The cash in your pocket element was always handy too as you didn’t then have to exchange foreign currency back again once the holiday was over etc.
 

A new currency is a huge change for people and there will always be shysters looking to exploit it. From a purely convenience point of view I loved at the start that I immediately could compare prices on holiday to what was normal at home rather than have to work it out. The cash in your pocket element was always handy too as you didn’t then have to exchange foreign currency back again once the holiday was over etc.
Well that's the funny part - the lev to euro exchange rate was tied at 1.95583 for about 25 years I think, or at least as long as I can remember without checking :lol:, so it's not like this is new information, it's more or less a formality at this point. People just feel some weird communism-inspired "national" pride - we were also one of the last (if not the last?) country that took down the communist/national traitor statues and busts and all those things, and they had protests against that as well...

We're in a weird state of segregated national schism basically - a part want communism back for some reason, a part want to look forward and join the EU and become... people, and the rest are the ruling few that make a massive unimaginable profit from both sides while playing them equally and with the 'long arm of the crime' if you will.
 
Good morning all on this dark one ,I hope all are well and had a good night . First thing listening to a future tenor or maybe not was a pleasure and I still have a wide grin ,if he puts that much effort into life he has a bright future ,perhaps a change from singing might be the best bet .
Looking forward to who is available later ,is Keano back or is Patto worth a gamble ? I have no idea why Dwight has dropped of a cliff but it seems he wants a change ,he might just not like Moyes' way of working ,although I think he has struggled since his partner was very sick .
Have a great day all COYB
 
Well that's the funny part - the lev to euro exchange rate was tied at 1.95583 for about 25 years I think, or at least as long as I can remember without checking :lol:, so it's not like this is new information, it's more or less a formality at this point. People just feel some weird communism-inspired "national" pride - we were also one of the last (if not the last?) country that took down the communist/national traitor statues and busts and all those things, and they had protests against that as well...

We're in a weird state of segregated national schism basically - a part want communism back for some reason, a part want to look forward and join the EU and become... people, and the rest are the ruling few that make a massive unimaginable profit from both sides while playing them equally and with the 'long arm of the crime' if you will.
Is there a general age demographic for those particular groups? I am presuming it is a younger generation looking greater European ties?
 
Good morning all on this dark one ,I hope all are well and had a good night . First thing listening to a future tenor or maybe not was a pleasure and I still have a wide grin ,if he puts that much effort into life he has a bright future ,perhaps a change from singing might be the best bet .
Looking forward to who is available later ,is Keano back or is Patto worth a gamble ? I have no idea why Dwight has dropped of a cliff but it seems he wants a change ,he might just not like Moyes' way of working ,although I think he has struggled since his partner was very sick .
Have a great day all COYB
Morning blue. If Keane is fit then I expect O’Brien to revert again to right back. If he isn’t, and Garner has to play there, that does leave an issue in the middle as to who plays alongside KDH. In that scenario then McNeil may actually get a start in his preferred central position.

I don’t think Moyes rates Patterson at all.
 

Anybody been to any school nativity plays yet ?


Three years ago our youngest granddaughter was chosen to be Mary. The journey to Bethlehem was two circuits of the school hall, the length of time taken for the choir to sing Little Donkey. Mary shot off like a rat up a drain pipe and arrived at the inn considerably earlier than Joseph and the Donkey. Unfortunately due to safeguarding no videos were allowed so we’ve nothing to embarrass her with when she’s older.😂
 
Three years ago our youngest granddaughter was chosen to be Mary. The journey to Bethlehem was two circuits of the school hall, the length of time taken for the choir to sing Little Donkey. Mary shot off like a rat up a drain pipe and arrived at the inn considerably earlier than Joseph and the Donkey. Unfortunately due to safeguarding no videos were allowed so we’ve nothing to embarrass her with when she’s older.😂
I played Joseph in the school nativity and still remember the ribbing I got because I had to hold Mary’s hand. Oh the shame of linking digits with a girl in Primary school :blush:
 
Is there a general age demographic for those particular groups? I am presuming it is a younger generation looking greater European ties?
The pro-Russian "nationalist" party is mostly appealing to 'boomers' (which is a rather big portion of the people here as we're an aging nation). The politicians are mostly 40+ and want to "preserve the national pride/product/currency/identity", all the while they sell their asses to the Russian embassy here and celebrate actual Bulgarian holidays (independence day and the likes) proudly waving Russian flags; odd behaviour, if you were a thinking man. The other rhetoric is those "gay westerners" ("euro-gay-ans" is a term they actually used) trying to take our currencies and kids (?), making everyone gay (????) and being corrupt (????????), unlike them, the protectors of the Christian family values (as much as Trump is for America really) and all that's good in the world (if the world is Russia).

The pro-EU party is mostly appealing to the younger generation, or the people who are fed up with the current regime - as a side note to this, I was surprised by the older generations representing a lot during the protests. The rest is quite the opposite obviously - pro-EU, pro-personal freedoms, anti-Russia, support for Ukraine. I have nothing more to say here other than they fact that they rattled the ones in the next paragraph so much that they had to dig up some random things to try and stop them - Kiril Petkov (the de-facto party leader at the time) had double citizenship and that was a problem (we've had several ministers with dual nationality before, as recent as a few years before, from the corrupt party as well ironically, and it was okay); the finance minister (co-party-leader with Petkov) was also labelled as "failed businessman" because he tried to invest in startups that bring capital to the country and they failed, as most startups do, but those aren't his money or anything like that, and it was a very well documented risk at the time (now he's labelled as gay for some reason but has the most balls out of everyone in parliament); and I can go on but you get the gist - personal instead of ideological.

The current corrupt ones have all the national services under their greasy wing(s) - the police and all the services, paid votes from the minorities that otherwise can't even read or write, the usual mafia stuff, as well as some people who genuinely believe this is the best choice for some reason (but that's democracy hey). That sadly accounts to 25-35% of the votes at the very least as the last time we had elections the turnout was roughly 30% of the populace, and half of those are the above-mentioned, so Borisov and Peevski were instantly back.

We have "the rest" - some scabby corrupt parties that are in parliament to avoid being put in jail using the immunity, the Bulgarian equivalent to Jay Leno (if this was 20 years ago) has a contrarian to everything and everyone party that has no idea or ideology statement - they just vote against EU things, while proclaiming support for the EU cause in a mad paradox statement.

Last (few) elections we had you can probably guess the majority demographic for each of the top 3 paragraphs.

Now this is obviously an oversimplification of the matters and it's a bit more complicated, but that's more or less off the top of my head haha - and yeah, younger people who I'd say are more and better travelled and have experienced cultures are more pro-EU obviously.

God that's a wall of text! If it bothers or annoys anyone here I don't mind answering you via PMs or anything, by the by, don't want to hog this good and safe space with crap politics-talk.
 
Morning blue. If Keane is fit then I expect O’Brien to revert again to right back. If he isn’t, and Garner has to play there, that does leave an issue in the middle as to who plays alongside KDH. In that scenario then McNeil may actually get a start in his preferred central position.

I don’t think Moyes rates Patterson at all.
I don't think Patterson rates Everton either but he is a professional ,it will be interesting because if we gel it is a game we could win.
 
The pro-Russian "nationalist" party is mostly appealing to 'boomers' (which is a rather big portion of the people here as we're an aging nation). The politicians are mostly 40+ and want to "preserve the national pride/product/currency/identity", all the while they sell their asses to the Russian embassy here and celebrate actual Bulgarian holidays (independence day and the likes) proudly waving Russian flags; odd behaviour, if you were a thinking man. The other rhetoric is those "gay westerners" ("euro-gay-ans" is a term they actually used) trying to take our currencies and kids (?), making everyone gay (????) and being corrupt (????????), unlike them, the protectors of the Christian family values (as much as Trump is for America really) and all that's good in the world (if the world is Russia).

The pro-EU party is mostly appealing to the younger generation, or the people who are fed up with the current regime - as a side note to this, I was surprised by the older generations representing a lot during the protests. The rest is quite the opposite obviously - pro-EU, pro-personal freedoms, anti-Russia, support for Ukraine. I have nothing more to say here other than they fact that they rattled the ones in the next paragraph so much that they had to dig up some random things to try and stop them - Kiril Petkov (the de-facto party leader at the time) had double citizenship and that was a problem (we've had several ministers with dual nationality before, as recent as a few years before, from the corrupt party as well ironically, and it was okay); the finance minister (co-party-leader with Petkov) was also labelled as "failed businessman" because he tried to invest in startups that bring capital to the country and they failed, as most startups do, but those aren't his money or anything like that, and it was a very well documented risk at the time (now he's labelled as gay for some reason but has the most balls out of everyone in parliament); and I can go on but you get the gist - personal instead of ideological.

The current corrupt ones have all the national services under their greasy wing(s) - the police and all the services, paid votes from the minorities that otherwise can't even read or write, the usual mafia stuff, as well as some people who genuinely believe this is the best choice for some reason (but that's democracy hey). That sadly accounts to 25-35% of the votes at the very least as the last time we had elections the turnout was roughly 30% of the populace, and half of those are the above-mentioned, so Borisov and Peevski were instantly back.

We have "the rest" - some scabby corrupt parties that are in parliament to avoid being put in jail using the immunity, the Bulgarian equivalent to Jay Leno (if this was 20 years ago) has a contrarian to everything and everyone party that has no idea or ideology statement - they just vote against EU things, while proclaiming support for the EU cause in a mad paradox statement.

Last (few) elections we had you can probably guess the majority demographic for each of the top 3 paragraphs.

Now this is obviously an oversimplification of the matters and it's a bit more complicated, but that's more or less off the top of my head haha - and yeah, younger people who I'd say are more and better travelled and have experienced cultures are more pro-EU obviously.

God that's a wall of text! If it bothers or annoys anyone here I don't mind answering you via PMs or anything, by the by, don't want to hog this good and safe space with crap politics-talk.
I for one am finding it very interesting and well put by you .
 

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