Oh indeed, Pickford has never had a game like that before and hopefully won't again. That kind of result can still be damaging, though, regardless of how it comes about, so to get that result last night was important in those terms IMO.
My comment wasn't entirely serious - it was a bit of a deliberate exaggeration so apologies if that didn't come through.
But I actually had a look at how much he did get us into Europe. While the league finishes were strong, we only got into Europe 4 seasons out of 11 of his first manager spell, and in two of those we went out in the initial stages - though we did do OK in the other 2 seasons.
TimHowardsBeardJuice
Player Valuation: £35m
Deserves huge credit for that performance, especially at a house of horrors for us, and even more after that wretched display on Saturday.
Everton were well-drilled. Bournemouth struggled to create and sustain any attack. We kept our shape, they ran into dead ends.
we kill him when he gets it wrong so when we play with such discipline as we did today, tip your cap.
Everton were well-drilled. Bournemouth struggled to create and sustain any attack. We kept our shape, they ran into dead ends.
we kill him when he gets it wrong so when we play with such discipline as we did today, tip your cap.
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Tommy Chong
Player Valuation: £70m
At this point in our phenomenal 2013/14 season, we were sitting on 24 points…
Imagine we manage to break our 72 point tally record this season?!
Certain heads might explode! What do you think, Mike?!
Drico
Player Valuation: £70m
Is that Snivelly's first cousin asking the questions?
Toe-curling.
Still, always a good sign when it's the questions rather than the answers getting brick-bats.
PercyPlant
Player Valuation: £8m
Couple of interesting stats that may have been mentioned, no side in the league has won more away games this calendar year
And we could lose our next 7 games and still have more points in early Feb than we had in any of the 3 previous seasons.
And we could lose our next 7 games and still have more points in early Feb than we had in any of the 3 previous seasons.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Go beat Forest now and really put the cat amongst the pigeons
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
What we saw last night in terms of performance is what we've seen on lots of occasions when he's been manager: when he's prepared to let the players off the leash this club has always had players who can play a bit.
The trouble is, we all know what comes next: back to the straitjacket in the weeks to come.
Last night was deja vu.
The trouble is, we all know what comes next: back to the straitjacket in the weeks to come.
Last night was deja vu.
wandyr79
Player Valuation: £30m
This 100%. Been reading through this thread and you put my thoughts perfectly.
I can understand people looking at scorelines and assuming we played awful. I didn't watch the Newcastle game but I said to my Spurs mate after their game and said the scoreline/result massively flattered them. He agreed, it was just one of those days, sounds like Newcastle might have been similar to that.
Moyes has been more attacking than defensive this season, as has been said if we had a Lukaku/Yakubu type finisher up front, we could be looking at an astonishing return at this point in the season.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Fans have been calling for JOB to CD and Garner to RB and Grealish to be less restricted to his LW position for months.
It's great that the manager finally listened to them in the end.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
He's ballsed up our season by not buying a decent CF and wasting loads of cash on players who are injury prone or not good enough in the end in his opinion when he he got them here.
That is abundantly clear.
A CF who can find the net on a regular basis has us about 5th now.
I've been saying for two or three seasons that the PL is dreadful. There's a couple of elite teams that can compete in the CL but the rest are easily surpassable. The fact is that we really are about 2/3 months behind schedule just about breaking into the top 10.
May sound stupid, but for the mid table sides,
The first goal is massive and it’s been massive in Moyes’s career. Last time he was here he hardly won, when we conceded first and hardly lost
When we scored first.
Forest were scoring first nearly every week last season and look how that helped them, though it’s not a long term strategy for success, it’s more a toss of coin approach
The first goal is massive and it’s been massive in Moyes’s career. Last time he was here he hardly won, when we conceded first and hardly lost
When we scored first.
Forest were scoring first nearly every week last season and look how that helped them, though it’s not a long term strategy for success, it’s more a toss of coin approach
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