2025/26 David Moyes


Don't most managers say every week you have to be at your best to get a result in the Premier League because every team is so good and every match is so difficult? Of course it was a winnable game and it shouldn't be suggested otherwise, but we're not peak Barca who can just put our slippers on swot very good teams aside. We're an average team and unless we are at our best every week, we're more likely to come unstuck than hoover up wins.
We were above them. They have a crap away record. We’ve just come off a high of beating Man U away with 10 men. The manager has no excuses for what he delivered today. None. Hopefully the owners have a plan in mind to replace him by the end of the season and the last vestiges of Kenwrightism can be finally expunged from this club.
 
Those post match comments have rightfully gone down like a cold cup of sick, such an embarrassing attitude to have when you are in the same division as the team you are playing. A team that had just been beaten by West Ham and Brentford for goodness sake.
Davey was completely schooled by Howe and his tanned swinging partner (who had a couple of days preparation at most for this game) from the first whistle. An absolute disaster of a performance made even worse by the cowardly and defeatist wham he’s spewed afterwards.
 

The fact we followed up such a good result with such a horrendous performance shows that we still have a long way to go and that there are still big questions over whether we can actually move forward under Moyes.

Good teams can get beat but good teams dont get beat like that when they should be on a high. Everything about the performance suggested a lack of intensity and even a lack of preparation.
 
It’s a false position though. People need to judge in actual quality. It’s like when Villa had a sticky patch and people thought losing to them was a bad result.
Hang on, you're the one that was telling us all both before and after the Man Utd match that Moyes was the guy to get the results against better teams. You can't have it both ways, either he's the guy to have us punching above our weight or he's a guy that's powerless in the face of teams with better squads and more experience. Which is it?
 
Lucky we've got proper owners now who won't be impressed whilst one of their clubs is top of the league taking the game to everyone they play whilst the other is 14th and has a manager coming out with quotes like that.

Moyes needs to stop thinking he's untouchable and still working under Bill.
I'm not convinced our owners are that bothered in truth. I get the feeling we're not their primary focus currently as they see us as a club that's been in disarray for so long we just need this steady steering of the ship.
 
In Moyes we rust. The lack of ambition when he speaks seeps through every pore of his being. He'll probably last the season, but we desperately need some positivism, and we're never going to get that from Moyes. This is what Can Friedkin said at the time of the takeover :

'The Friedkin Group is a diverse family of companies with a global footprint spanning industries such as sports, automotive, entertainment, hospitality, and adventure. Across all our endeavours, we strive to deliver extraordinary experiences that ignite people’s passions.'

Moyes will never deliver extraordinary experiences that ignite people’s passions.
 

I don’t disagree with him trying to manage expectations but there are surely ways of doing it without sounding this totally defeatist?

I understand managing expectations - but it feels like we’re weeing in the wind a bit - 1 step forward one back.

I just feel like the standards have to be higher and that interview has arguably annoyed me more than the game has. He was given 100m+ and is in a billion pound stadium. If he wants to do that nonsense he can ‘Koff to Burnley if he thinks that level is acceptable
 
Why does he do this sort of quote??? What the hell does it gain him?

Fair enough, say they were the better side on the night, criticize our performance and praise theirs. But to do that, it just chucks goodwill that he gained on Monday right away.

Infuriating.
It's him stating, publicly, that it's not his fault. It's Moyes putting Moyes first. Like he always has.
 
TFG are ambitious, at least I hope so. From the get go they surely knew that this was a huge rebuild because of under investment in the squad for many years. 100 millions nowadays is not going to cut it. You need to spend perhaps 3 or 4 times that before you start become a real challenger in the top half of the table. I know psr is an issue, and I hope they used goodison park alongside the sale of the womens team to give us a bit of breathing room. I would be disappointed if we dont spend at least another 100 millions in January.
It's absolutely a rebuild and a long one at that. You are correct in £100m not doing the job, it will take 3 maybe 4 summer windows of that kind of spend to have the kind of team and squad TFG might feel can be in the mix for the top 6/7 places.

As for spending another £100m in January, no chance of that. Highly doubt we've got anywhere near that amount to spend again, and even if we did, it'll be very difficult to get the players we may want mid season. I'd be surprised if it wasn't a quiet January; probably a striker on loan, maybe a £15-20m midfielder/full back if one happens to be available. Something like that will probably be the window.
 

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