2025/26 David Moyes

[TheBigIguana]

Oh massive congratulations to him, only the cream of the crop managers could beat Nicaragua and Cuba to progress to a tournament to play 3 games in it.

I feel like you’re not giving him proper respect as he actually won zero qualifiers

 

[Bluewater]

Moyes deserves credit where credit is due and the last two games he has slight tweaked his system and tactics. Playing Dewsbury-Hall in a midfield three has made all the difference to our ability to move the ball through the channels and if we lose the ball he drops back quickly. We are not getting overrun in midfield as we were earlier in the season and Dewsbury-Hall's fittest levels have gone up, so he's able to go forward and play and then get back if need be.
In a way, there is no excuse for Moyes now, not to do well with this squad, it's all down to how good a manger he is. We can argue all day whether he's a good manager or not, but the really test is can he win something, within the next two years, and make a serious challenge on top 4.

 

[MikeH72]

I feel like you’re not giving him proper respect as he actually won zero qualifiers

So I’ve given him too much credit then?

 

[Swartzy]

The problem with the patience viewpoint is the team is the oldest in the division and the manager is one of the older ones as well. We’re starting Keane, Tarkowski, Gana and Grealish every week. This isn’t a patience setup. This is a get it done today setup.

There’s a way to finish 11th that is thrilling and exciting for what is to come and there’s a way to do it that’s a bit more dreary and we’re doing the more dreary one.

You are a failed 'Davek'

The worst cover version.

 

[davek]

Sometimes you just fall on the right approach, prepared tactics are removed from the situation, it's how you deal with what's left in front of you.

KDH moved back inline with Garner, which gave him a more open pitch infront of him, jack pulled back to basically cover as a wing back, Illy was Illy, Pickford was Pickford, the defense was solid and Barry put in a 10/10 performance compared to how he started with us.

Moyes kept that structure without any 'jump the ship' changes.
His subs were perfectly timed and perfectly chosen.

Tactics during a normally inevitable collapse after what happened were spot on.

"Credit where credit's Due"

You merely restated my point: the circumstances were not normal. Circling the wagons and having people do jobs they're not used to is just reacting to a crisis.

It's what happens in normal games that matter. If anyone believes Moyes will retain KDH in a deeper position or Grealish will be asked to sacrifice his normal attacking game then they're in for a disappointment.

Moyes isn't a bad manager, btw. He's a mediocre one. That's what's always been said and so he'll have good days now and again. Last night was one of them but it's not the norm.

 

[blue to the bone]

The problem with the patience viewpoint is the team is the oldest in the division and the manager is one of the older ones as well. We’re starting Keane, Tarkowski, Gana and Grealish every week. This isn’t a patience setup. This is a get it done today setup.

There’s a way to finish 11th that is thrilling and exciting for what is to come and there’s a way to do it that’s a bit more dreary and we’re doing the more dreary one.

Thats what football is about.
Not watching on a laptop and looking at spreadsheets and data
Try it sometime.

 

[TheBigIguana]

The patient/slow approach to me is what you're suggesting. You want us to be a selling club, that has players for a couple of seasons before moving them on to a CL club.

This may be a good strategy for clubs like Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth but we are not them. These are all tinpot clubs, who are over achieving without ever actually achieving anything meaningful. They've hit the ceiling of what they can do and we are aiming higher than that.

We're a bigger club, with better infrastructure, bigger financial backing. Everton fans with any common sense should have higher aspirations than functioning as a feeder club for the sky 6. We have a decent January and a strong summer window and we absolutely leapfrog those clubs next season, as we should.

But not enough financial backing. What we’re able to do is closer to those teams you listed that we’re not like than the ones we want to be. And we have to be realistic about that.

Hopefully it doesn’t have to be that way forever. But today it is. That’s why the manager being the right man is so important. It’s not just about results on the field. We also need improvement from our players and have the ability to easily fit them into an established system that makes recruitment more straightforward.

 

[MikeH72]

You merely restated my point: the circumstances were not normal. Circling the wagons and having people do jobs they're not used to is just reacting to a crisis.

It's what happens in normal games that matter. If anyone believes Moyes will retain KDH in a deeper position or Grealish will be asked to sacrifice his normal attacking game then they're in for a disappointment.

Moyes isn't a bad manager, btw. He's a mediocre one. That's what's always been said and so he'll have good days now and again. Last night was one of them but it's not the norm.

Fulham was a normal game and that didn’t count because they’re rubbish apparently.

 

[TheBigIguana]

So I’ve given him too much credit then?

Yes sir.

I wanted Marsch to succeed but he didn’t. I don’t expect this Canada run to go better.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Fulham was a normal game and that didn’t count because they’re rubbish apparently.

I'm also 99.9% sure he's said the exact opposite when Dyche was here.

Funny how it be

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Moyes isn't a bad manager, btw. He's a mediocre one. That's what's always been said and so he'll have good days now and again. Last night was one of them but it's not the norm.

If he’s a mediocre manager explain how he has managed over 700 games in the Premier League?

 

[davek]

Fulham was a normal game and that didn’t count because they’re rubbish apparently.

Of course it was. And we've won 3 more besides that in normal circumstances.

But we're a team with a mediocre manager who'll get us mediocre performances, and that's underlined by the fact we're slap bang in the middle of the table.

The gulf between, say, Emery and Moyes is chasmic.

We should have our own Emery.

 

[b-rad]

It's how we play in the games we lose that reflects the manager, not the games we win (or something like that).

 

[davek]

I'm also 99.9% sure he's said the exact opposite when Dyche was here.

Funny how it be

Under hugely different circumstances.

You're dealing in abstractions.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

You merely restated my point: the circumstances were not normal. Circling the wagons and having people do jobs they're not used to is just reacting to a crisis.

It's what happens in normal games that matter. If anyone believes Moyes will retain KDH in a deeper position or Grealish will be asked to sacrifice his normal attacking game then they're in for a disappointment.

Moyes isn't a bad manager, btw. He's a mediocre one. That's what's always been said and so he'll have good days now and again. Last night was one of them but it's not the norm.

Come on Davek just enjoy a thoroughly wonderful victory achieved by a brilliant team and coaching team. Not every day has to be a battle against wrongs