Ragnar
Player Valuation: £8m
All we do is utilise that and that’s the problem. We have zero threat through the middle of our team so our wingers just end up doubled up. We need to start Alcaraz in the 10 now.
We are a quarter of the way into the season.
Out of the league cup to a team who hasn't won in the league.
Out of the three promoted teams we have one more point than the mighty Burnley.
One win in the last seven games and that was against Palace. We got lucky in that first half to be only behind by one.
I thought our motto is " Nil Satis, Nisi Optimum " Not " Other than the scoreline it was an even game "
Out of the league cup to a team who hasn't won in the league.
Out of the three promoted teams we have one more point than the mighty Burnley.
One win in the last seven games and that was against Palace. We got lucky in that first half to be only behind by one.
I thought our motto is " Nil Satis, Nisi Optimum " Not " Other than the scoreline it was an even game "
dannyboy
Player Valuation: £60m
All the things you've mentioned are very normal for Everton in a lot of people's lifetimes. Whether you're a fan of the club or not, it's more of a surprise for us actually to be doing well.
KevMirallas
Player Valuation: £35m
He's had some stinkers for sure. Not as many as Beto, but has at times looked a step off the pace and short of confidence. Which, you know, probably makes sense given the circumstances. Everybody's different of course but I just can't imagine that a show of faith from the manager would harm his confidence more than barely starting, getting dragged at half-time every time he does and hearing the manager publicly tell the world regularly that he's not good enough.
And you're right, it might not go well at Sunderland if he starts. In fact it probably won't! But the only way for him to improve, or at the very least for us to find out what he's capable of, is for us to have the courage to swallow some poor performances while he learns. I wouldn't be advocating for this if it was prime Lukaku starting in front of him, but we already know everything we need to know about Beto.
Vagner Love
Player Valuation: £500k
Team needs a shake up it’s gone stale, he’s not got the balls to do it though, he’ll stick to the same tired formula
Bluelenny1984
Player Valuation: £10m
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and for me Moyes isn’t the long term issue at this club we have had one window to fix things it’s a work in progress. I can’t even be arsed arguing with the anti Moyes brigade truth is there entitled to there opinion to. It’s tiresome to the point of losing interest in even posting to the contrary.
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
I don't particularly care if he stays or goes, but surely it's dawned on some of you that just sacking managers without a truly good upgrade line-up or even available is a really bad idea.
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £50m
I think you're right. Moyes has his good points but one of his bad ones is he sticks to what he see's as tried and tested.
And i think with players if he doesnt fancy them it comes through. said in the player thread at the start of the season i feared for Alcarez. Almost everytime i see him play through the middle he causes problems for the opposition. But he clearly doesnt trust him. its a bit like soucek at west ham. Their fans were tearing their hair out as he played him no matter what as he was a moyes favourite
He can be stubborn once he's made his mind up.
Imo he is completely ruining Alcaraz.
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
Oh the worm always turns on here. The most vocal posters on here are among the most knee jerk and reactionary lot you'll ever hear from. There's never any medium ground with them on managers. The boss is either our lord and saviour blessing us and the greatest man that ever lived. Or he's a waste of space and isn't fit to manage a bunch of drunks having a kick about in the park. I wouldn't take the loudest voices on here very seriously, they rarely reflect the feelings of GOT, never mind our match going and winder fan base.
The Alcaraz situation annoys me, he finished the season well last season , good goal at Newcastle , changed game against Palace, pushed outwide against City and only comes on 85min yesterday.
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £50m
He ran the show at Newcastle last season through the centre. Their midfield and centre halves never knew how to pick him up.
To me it sealed the deal. Give him an extended run there. He's a clever player with ability and pops in goals.
I cant work Moyes out other than he just doesnt fancy him.
I'd have no difficulty with Moyes being let go at the end of the season, if, and it's a big if, the club have already identified the man they believe will take us forward and have sounded him out as to his willingness to come here.
Sunderland will be a huge test of his approach imo. It's obvious to everyone that his current go-to XI needs a shake up. I'll be so generous as to say it's not his fault that it ended up needing changing - we have unavoidable holes in the squad that mean some experimenting was always going to be needed to figure out what actually works best.
But can he be both brave and clever enough to implement the needed changes?
But can he be both brave and clever enough to implement the needed changes?
NathDogg
Player Valuation: £60m
I really don’t want him sacked, I think that’s crazy talk. He’s done a fine job in the main since returning to us.
Do I think he’s using the available players and squad as effectively as he could - definitely not. The options he keeps picking aren’t performing in the shape he continues to select, it’s maddening. Tactically we are very limited - teams just shut ndiaye and Grealish out/double up and that’s us done.
Shape and personnel have to change imo, and the next two games are huge now, due to our poor recent form, when they didn’t need to be. If he goes with the same again then I can see problems.
We need to be looking to win both tbh, which won’t be easy - minimum 4 points or Daveys in a spot of bother.
Do I think he’s using the available players and squad as effectively as he could - definitely not. The options he keeps picking aren’t performing in the shape he continues to select, it’s maddening. Tactically we are very limited - teams just shut ndiaye and Grealish out/double up and that’s us done.
Shape and personnel have to change imo, and the next two games are huge now, due to our poor recent form, when they didn’t need to be. If he goes with the same again then I can see problems.
We need to be looking to win both tbh, which won’t be easy - minimum 4 points or Daveys in a spot of bother.
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