Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

[pfim]

I suppose this also begs the question - does that mean they can start spending July 1st ? Or we can't put the cart before the horse and we need 3 years of positive finances before we can spend.

Incredibly dull, isnt it.

The FY 2024 results will be a bit of drag on our spend post July 1st. We don't know what 2025 results will be, but I would assume they were more positive any 2024 (or more importantly 2023 as those would now fall off after July 1st).

 

[Clarky cat]

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who’s he like?

He’s a sycophantic Man Utd mouthpiece (just came back from their rather deplorable Asian cap in hand tour at BBC licence payers expense as well, while at the time Chelsea were playing in an actual European final)
He has over the years displayed an enormous lack of insight about other clubs including Everton and has no idea (as he pretty much has stated in his long winded response above) what Everton will/won’t/can/can’t do. He’s a fully paid up member of the “Jim’ll fire it” club.

Unless you were asking who Adam was?

 

[blueboy72]

Maguire was saying he thinks we have between £50m - £100m to spend.

Who knows in reality but I wouldn't expect it to be more than that and at the midpoint of those figures, we would be doing most of our shopping in Europe / Globally and on relatively unknown players.

Six players in for fees at average £15m each is £90m, less if there is one bigger signing thrown in.

Diomande linked yesterday would probably cost between £8m - £10m. That might well be a typical profile of a deal we would do unless Moyes decides to limit it to 4 or so players topped up with loans.

I'm not disheartened about it just that it's nearly time for action now and we'll see the limitations that are there plus how far TFG will / are allowed to push things.

But is that 50mil to 100mil cash to play with ?? We all know say it’s 60mil in the pot, that can be easily over 200mil on players, if TFG want to spend and have cash to put down as payments and bigger down payments, can get you better deals. Then I don’t see it a problem, on 5 year deals It means you can spread the costs and if we’re going to financially better next year and year after. Then it makes sense

 

[Peter Leslie]

This is the second time now that its been reported that we're 'interested' in Ben Doak..

..what next? we'll be moving on to 'pondering'?

"weighing-up" is the next stage, if I remember right...

 

[Zezti]

From transfermarkt:

We're the only club to have made a profit in transfers in each of the last 4 seasons and we're still heavily limited by PSR? Not to mention, even in Moshiri's reckless years, we didn't come close to what some clubs have spent. 77mil at our worst compared to 150m by 'kin Ipswich last season.

 

[pfim]

From transfermarkt:

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We're the only club to have made a profit in transfers in each of the last 4 seasons and we're still heavily limited by PSR? Not to mention, even in Moshiri's reckless years, we didn't come close to what some clubs have spent. 77mil at our worst compared to 150m by 'kin Ipswich last season.

Yes because of ridiculous wages to ridiculous players and declining revenue.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

But can he point???....

Not like ‘are’ phil

 

[brieverton]

But is that 50mil to 100mil cash to play with ?? We all know say it’s 60mil in the pot, that can be easily over 200mil on players, if TFG want to spend and have cash to put down as payments and bigger down payments, can get you better deals. Then I don’t see it a problem, on 5 year deals It means you can spread the costs and if we’re going to financially better next year and year after. Then it makes sense

Of course you're right yes. With performance clauses etc and amortisation, wages, it's impossible to know the true cost until it appears in the accounts.

I guess if you have a £20m transfer though then you end up paying most of it over time.

I think they have a hard job on their hands to say the least but I'm generally quite positive.

 

[9LeagueTitles5FACups]

From transfermarkt:

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We're the only club to have made a profit in transfers in each of the last 4 seasons and we're still heavily limited by PSR? Not to mention, even in Moshiri's reckless years, we didn't come close to what some clubs have spent. 77mil at our worst compared to 150m by 'kin Ipswich last season.

Who is to say that we are severely restricted in what we can spend? Yes, there may well be some restriction and rightfully so - we ought to spend wisely. As far as I am concerned, however, we should not be overly restricted by PSR or similar rules, as we have been in seasons gone by.

All talk of spending restrictions is merely speculation to me.

 

[nonstripdzebra]

Branthwaite has gone…

Man Utd agree terms with Everton defender Branthwaite - report

Manchester United have moved a step closer to signing Jarrad Branthwaite, with the Everton defender reportedly agreeing personal terms to a potential move.

www.tntsports.co.uk

If its true its indeed a blow. That said this is my glass half full logic if he is indeed gone.

For starters we are in the midst of new car prices in the market. I think Wirtz being already agreed has maybe inflated the market, clubs are moving a little more desperate or hasty already. All that is context to an optimistic negotiation/return. Not to mention his contract ending in 27. In the life cycle of JB at Everton its hard to argue this isn't the peak his value will be with us. A year from now the one year left may affect things even if he's made improvements on the pitch . I think there's an argument his quality each matchday is maybe worth taking a dip in a return a year from now, but if the club are trying to sell at maximum value I do think it's this window.

Second factor is Tark. Say we put off another year, I do think that Tark may start to show cracks in form. Replacing both simultaneously could warrant issues. Obviously O'Brien is in the building. That's hopeful and if he enters the first 11 could learn a lot on match days from his current #6 partner. Its just to say we have a stalwart centre half in Tark. I think he is plus starter level entering next year, but we also are wise to factor that time at this level of performance is likely limited. If the club want to make another young centre back signing while his form is still assuring to both learn from/stagger as a longterm replacement it's got grounds.

Third is realistic to our next season aspirations. Lets face it PSR is still a burden were bearing, I expect some action in recruitment but not dramatic at least in elevating drastically our quality into a new conversation with our current funds. I know the stats post Moyes, but I still think this team is likely a year away from european spots and likely finishing somewhere between 8th and 13th. If that's the case do you rip the band aid off now to what's an inevitability and plan that reinvestment with an eye on europe the year after next? Again maybe not ideal but I do think its arguable and likely how we should be apporaching the market with or without Branthwaite.

I for one admit I may be underselling just how crucial our defensive line has been. Taking out one of the best CB prospects on the planet in that, it's chipping away at what's been our stalwart to safety and recent relative success from expectations. But I think we were lucky to push it off this season. Two of our top 5 players are at GK and CB still. And the sale is coming next year if not this one. The broader context is what it is.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Mitrovic linked AGAIN

 

[BainesontoastNEW]

From transfermarkt:

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We're the only club to have made a profit in transfers in each of the last 4 seasons and we're still heavily limited by PSR? Not to mention, even in Moshiri's reckless years, we didn't come close to what some clubs have spent. 77mil at our worst compared to 150m by 'kin Ipswich last season.

Villa with that sweet, sweet Grealish money. Ironic, isn't it? Considering the fact we're linked.

 

[Toffeepot]

If its true its indeed a blow. That said this is my glass half full logic if he is indeed gone.

For starters we are in the midst of new car prices in the market. I think Wirtz being already agreed has maybe inflated the market, clubs are moving a little more desperate or hasty already. All that is context to an optimistic negotiation/return. Not to mention his contract ending in 27. In the life cycle of JB at Everton its hard to argue this isn't the peak his value will be with us. A year from now the one year left may affect things even if he's made improvements on the pitch . I think there's an argument his quality each matchday is maybe worth taking a dip in a return a year from now, but if the club are trying to sell at maximum value I do think it's this window.

Second factor is Tark. Say we put off another year, I do think that Tark may start to show cracks in form. Replacing both simultaneously could warrant issues. Obviously O'Brien is in the building. That's hopeful and if he enters the first 11 could learn a lot on match days from his current #6 partner. Its just to say we have a stalwart centre half in Tark. I think he is plus starter level entering next year, but we also are wise to factor that time at this level of performance is likely limited. If the club want to make another young centre back signing while his form is still assuring to both learn from/stagger as a longterm replacement it's got grounds.

Third is realistic to our next season aspirations. Lets face it PSR is still a burden were bearing, I expect some action in recruitment but not dramatic at least in elevating drastically our quality into a new conversation with our current funds. I know the stats post Moyes, but I still think this team is likely a year away from european spots and likely finishing somewhere between 8th and 13th. If that's the case do you rip the band aid off now to what's an inevitability and plan that reinvestment with an eye on europe the year after next? Again maybe not ideal but I do think its arguable and likely how we should be apporaching the market with or without Branthwaite.

I for one admit I may be underselling just how crucial our defensive line has been. Taking out one of the best CB prospects on the planet in that, it's chipping away at what's been our stalwart to safety and recent relative success from expectations. But I think we were lucky to push it off this season. Two of our top 5 players are at GK and CB still. And the sell is coming next year regardless. The broader context is what it is.

The article is a year old

 

[nonstripdzebra]

The article is a year old

lol

 

[dixienormous]

Man City signing Wolves left back Ait Nouri. Decent signing that. I assume Wolves have an FFP hole to fill by the end of June.

We should try to get Man City’s young left back on loan - can’t remember his name but he looks like one half of Kid N’ Play.

Kid Reilly...a Class Act