Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

[windymiller]

Believe me it's a price worth paying.
Very occasionally I have a look at his posts just to have a laugh but on the whole I prefer to be in ignorance

I actually don't have a problem with us signing a Brownhill , Soucek or Longstaff ( if Moyes really wanted him ) provided that it was balanced with signing a promising young player like Rigg or Bellingham

I agree in principle but I would also add that the older heads should not be too expensive. Spending £25m on Soucek or £15m on Longstaff and the calculus doesn't work any more for me.

 

[blueboy72]

I agree in principle but I would also add that the older heads should not be too expensive. Spending £25m on Soucek or £15m on Longstaff and the calculus doesn't work any more for me.

Well apparently TFG have said they won’t be spending on players of a certain age, so that definitely rules soucek out.

The issue I have with Longstaff is no clubs wanted him when he played for crap Newcastle, in the championship or bottom 6 prem. when they could have picked him up for a decent fee. I’m sick of us buying cast offs From top 4/6 clubs

 

[davek]

Wait'll you see how Moyes destroys your hopes of a warchest this summer.

He's already strung everyone along in the January window.

The maestro will give a real masterclass this summer running the clock down and buying about 10 bob's worth of players.

You KNOW I'm right.

 

[Bally1989]

Wait'll you see how Moyes destroys your hopes of a warchest this summer.

He's already strung everyone along in the January window.

The maestro will give a real masterclass this summer running the clock down and buying about 10 bob's worth of players.

You KNOW I'm right.

I mean lets be honest we never had a preverbal pot to you know what in so I am not too sure what you expected to spend under the days of Emperor Palpatine sorry Chairman Bill

 

[blueboy72]

Wait'll you see how Moyes destroys your hopes of a warchest this summer.

He's already strung everyone along in the January window.

The maestro will give a real masterclass this summer running the clock down and buying about 10 bob's worth of players.

You KNOW I'm right.

Well he won’t have full control, so let’s see how it pans out

 

[Eggs]

Wait'll you see how Moyes destroys your hopes of a warchest this summer.

He's already strung everyone along in the January window.

The maestro will give a real masterclass this summer running the clock down and buying about 10 bob's worth of players.

You KNOW I'm right.

….he’ll have to spread the spend envelope wisely and widely because of the numbers we need in. A war chest might not go very far.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Part of this has been down to our very defensive set up though. If we want to score more goals it's inevitably going to involve taking more risks in possession, committing more players forward etc so I don't think it's as simple as just saying the defensive side is fine. Even in recent weeks under Moyes we've seen a bit of a trade off in looking much better going forward but only keeping 1 clean sheet in the last 11 games. Under Dyche we kept quite a lot of clean sheets because we just got 11 men behind the ball and booted it as far away from our goal as possible when we got it, not necessarily because the defence itself was amazing. I'd say we need improvements all over the pitch.

Disagree, somewhat.

Are you saying that we'd start conceding more goals if we brought better forwards into the club even if the defence remained largely the same? one thing doesn't necessarily have to mean the other...

It is clear that we desperately lack quality in the forward areas so, yes, we 1000% should be prioritising that.

 

[roy vernon]

Depends how its looked at really.

If we need 8 players, I'd loan 4 and spend on the other 4.

If we signed Delap, Rigg, Dibling as 3/4 then we'd have 3 more potential England players there...give it 2 seasons and we could see massive profit from increased revenue streams due to having those players.

All depends on the strategy, but id rather do that than sign the likes of Soucek.

I suppose, no matter what the strategy is, it depends more on convincing young players, who will get offers from much better teams than Everton, that we are the place to go. Good luck with that.

 

[Mr Happy]

….he’ll have to spread the spend envelope wisely and widely because of the numbers we need in. A war chest might not go very far.

That's why I reckon the likes of Doucoure, Young etc getting extensions. Proper rebuild. Not like we're blessed in the U23s either. Right old pickle.

 

[Neiler]

Yeah I'd disagree completely really. It's interesting that you think the goals conceded column over the season is a good barometer but don't think the same should apply over the shorter period though.

The game is a joined up one. Your attackers help you defend and your defenders help you attack. Thinking that you can just change one side of the game and everything will just stay the same with the other side is a very naive and outdated take.

Cool mate. Agree to differ!

 

[Lanolin]

Disagree, somewhat.

Are you saying that we'd start conceding more goals if we brought better forwards into the club even if the defence remained largely the same? one thing doesn't necessarily have to mean the other...

I think there are numerous aspects to it. One of the things I'm trying to get across is that the idea that your attacking play only comes from your attackers and your defensive play from your defenders isn't really how football works these days. Doucoure is playing as a 10 for us partly because he's good at keeping the shape, getting back to help out the midfield, cutting down passing lanes etc. If you take him out and replace him with a 'better forward' then you may lose that and that's a pretty big thing. Harrison and Lindstrom have played half the season as auxillary fullbacks, and even now the wide players are very much expected to get back and offer defensive cover. You can't just replace them with someone who has more ability on the ball but doesn't do the defensive side and expect it not to have an impact. If you want to play out from the back you need players who are comfortable doing that (properly doing it, not just not giving it away every time they get it but being comfortable getting the ball under pressure, breaking the lines with passes etc) and full backs are a key part of most teams attacks these days so you can only improve your attack so far if you have 2 who aren't very good going forward.

In short, no one thing doesn't necessarily have to mean the other, but there's an awful lot more to it than just saying 'if we sign better attacking players everything will be fine'.

 

[RinkyDinker]

Wait'll you see how Moyes destroys your hopes of a warchest this summer.

He's already strung everyone along in the January window.

The maestro will give a real masterclass this summer running the clock down and buying about 10 bob's worth of players.

You KNOW I'm right.

Im sure we’re all delighted he didn’t make any panic buys in Jan, in hindsight. I’d much rather he invest in players he’s had adequate chance to scout & assess in this coming window, rather than be stuck with another panic buy January journeyman on a 3 yr deal. Moyes said himself he was a little taken aback by the lingering PSR issues in Jan, so the fact he didn’t take the risk and kept us up, relatively easily should be commended. From 1st July, we enter uncharted waters again, with available funds to spend. I don’t doubt for one single moment that Moyes will invest in a number of players willing to take us forward in Bramley Moore, regardless of whether he or scouting team identified them. You can’t be comparing Jan & July, it’s chalk & cheese.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

I think there are numerous aspects to it. Partly one of the things I'm trying to get across is that the idea that your attacking play only comes from your attackers and your defensive play from your defenders isn't really how football works these days. Doucoure is playing as a 10 for us partly because he's good at keeping the shape, getting back to help out the midfield, cutting down passing lanes etc. If you take him out and replace him with a 'better forward' then you may lose that. Harrison and Lindstrom have played half the season as auxillary fullbacks, and even now the wide players are very much expected to get back and offer defensive cover. You can't just replace them with someone who has more ability on the ball but doesn't do the defensive side and expect it not to have an impact. If you want to play out from the back you need players who are comfortable doing that (properly doing it, not just not giving it away every time they get it but being comfortable getting the ball under pressure, breaking the lines with passes etc) and full backs are a key part of most teams attacks these days so you can only improve your attack so far if you have 2 who aren't very good going forward.

In short, no one thing doesn't necessarily have to mean the other, but there's an awful lot more to it than just saying 'if we sign better attacking players everything will be fine'.

Doucoure is the perfect case in point though mate.

He's one of those players that we could instantly upgrade on in many aspects if the club simply applies the correct level of due diligence. There are players out there who can do exactly the job he's doing now but are also better on the ball/provide more goal threat and wouldn't command his wages. It really isn't rocket science if you ask me...

 

[Bedfordblue]

See links to Jarell Quansah for £30m today. No idea if hes any good but get the feeling £30m is a stretch, giving me Jordan I’ve to Bournemouth vibes.
Likewise a move for Leon Bailey, can’t see him doing enough defensively for a Moyes buy.

 

[Neiler]

I think there are numerous aspects to it. One of the things I'm trying to get across is that the idea that your attacking play only comes from your attackers and your defensive play from your defenders isn't really how football works these days. Doucoure is playing as a 10 for us partly because he's good at keeping the shape, getting back to help out the midfield, cutting down passing lanes etc. If you take him out and replace him with a 'better forward' then you may lose that and that's a pretty big thing. Harrison and Lindstrom have played half the season as auxillary fullbacks, and even now the wide players are very much expected to get back and offer defensive cover. You can't just replace them with someone who has more ability on the ball but doesn't do the defensive side and expect it not to have an impact. If you want to play out from the back you need players who are comfortable doing that (properly doing it, not just not giving it away every time they get it but being comfortable getting the ball under pressure, breaking the lines with passes etc) and full backs are a key part of most teams attacks these days so you can only improve your attack so far if you have 2 who aren't very good going forward.

In short, no one thing doesn't necessarily have to mean the other, but there's an awful lot more to it than just saying 'if we sign better attacking players everything will be fine'.

But nobody drew up the lines of demarcation really except you, all anyone said is its clear that we need to invest in scoring more. All that's was pointed out is we defend well and score poorly.

Its pretty remedial stuff you are pointing out mate "we attack and defend as a team" - "full backs attack" "wingers defend" "the game is about balance" - yeah we know - we still need to improve our goal scoring more then our defending recognising all the afore mentioned and without being absolute - i think every fan on here knows the burning need and priority of investment is in the more advanced areas and goal scoring.

Newcastle are 4th have lost 1 less game then us - the difference is wins and draws - theyve scored 62 goals, we have scored 34 and we have a better defensive record then them.