2024/25 David Moyes

[Eggs]

I dont rate this league.

Look at the teams vying for European spots.

If people are seeing the PL as some sort of incredibly competitive league that you just have to cling to a lower place in then they're not reading the room.

It's all change now. Maybe it's down to PSR - I dont know. But the baked in echelons are no more. Villa and Forest are there to underline that, as is Spurs fall from grace. And even the regular top sixers like Chelsea and City who are still there are running up 50 odd points at this late stage.

With a bit of spending and a very good manager we can make giant strides.

…very fair point, Dave, but the re-build still has to happen this summer and we need to be competitive with a different looking squad.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Davey Moyes, the third greatest Everton manager in my lifetime. What a man.

 

[Marius57]

I think it’s an incredibly competitive league.

The teams vying for European spots are teams 6 months ago we were being told we would do well to get anything from because teams like Fulham and Brighton will be expecting 7th etc.

And now they aren’t rated and are all crap

 

[davek]

Spurs "fall from grace" is nothing to do with the league but more to do with a crap manager.

Nah, they were 7th under Mourinho. Last 5 seasons:

7th
4th
8th
5th
16th

That's a club that's lost its moorings under a few managers.

 

[davek]

Heaven forbid certain sides pick up one or more european trophies, will you change your tune?

No. The league is what we're talking about.

 

[Lanolin]

The teams vying for European spots are teams 6 months ago we were being told we would do well to get anything from because teams like Fulham and Brighton will be expecting 7th etc.

And now they aren’t rated and are all crap

Almost as if he’s just wumming and people don’t need to engage all the time as if he’s being serious isn’t it.

 

[Rita_Poon]

No. The league is what we're talking about.

So for making absolute sure of the situation, the Euro trophies mean nothing?

 

[davek]

So for making absolute sure of the situation, the Euro trophies mean nothing?

They're two different things.

 

[Rita_Poon]

CL semi's

Inter Milan (Italy) vs Barcelona (Spain)
PSG (France) vs Arsenal (England)

Europa League semi's

Atletic Bilbao (Spain) vs man utd (England)
Bodo Glimt (Norway) vs tottenham hotspur (England)

Uefa conference semi's

Fiorentina (Italy) vs Real Betis (Spain)
Djurgarden (Sweden) vs chelsea (England)

Just for a little objectivity. I'm not sure any PL side lifts a trophy but I reckon at least one makes a final. 6 semi finals, 4 PL sides. Spain second represented with three sides.

 

[Rita_Poon]

They're two different things.

How highly do you consider an achievement for being rewarded with continental football qualification for a side?

 

[davek]

CL semi's

Inter Milan (Italy) vs Barcelona (Spain)
PSG (France) vs Arsenal (England)

Europa League semi's

Atletic Bilbao (Spain) vs man utd (England)
Bodo Glimt (Norway) vs tottenham hotspur (England)

Uefa conference semi's

Fiorentina (Italy) vs Real Betis (Spain)
Djurgarden (Sweden) vs chelsea (England)

Just for a little objectivity. I'm not sure any PL side lifts a trophy but I reckon at least one makes a final. 6 semi finals, 4 PL sides. Spain second represented with three sides.

Means nothing other than those English teams are having good cup runs. It tells you next to nothing about the competitiveness of the PL or the quality of the 'big 6' teams.

Spurs 16th
United 14th
City and Chelsea on 50 odd points with 5 games to go in the season.

All that tells me this league is opening up.

With a great managerial appointment we can get ourselves right up there again.

But most will say: "just get Moyes to get us safe".

What a palaver.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Means nothing other than those English teams are having good cup runs. It tells you next to nothing about the competitiveness of the PL or the quality of the 'big 6' teams.

Spurs 16th
United 14th
City and Chelsea on 50 odd points with 5 games to go in the season.

All that tells me this league is opening up.

With a great managerial appointment we can get ourselves right up there again.

But most will say: "just get Moyes to get us safe".

What a palaver.

Just

One

Name

if you please, dear.

 

[davek]

Just

One

Name

if you please, dear.

Fonseca.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Fonseca.

14 managerial roles in 20 years. Are you serious?

 

[davek]

14 managerial roles in 20 years. Are you serious?

Ha Ha Ha.

Redundant.