2024/25 Jesper Lindstrom

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Suppose we need 2 players for each position - who would you rather keep - Lindstrom or Harrison ? it's up to Moyes but there's something to be said for a known-quantity if he is settled.

We were pretty keen on signing a right winger so assume we try again in summer - then he will have competition there and more central.
 
There's a bit of fine tuning required, and that goes for both wings. Because neither wing has a specialist full back to work with. Expecting marauding wing play whilst also conscious of working back for defence is a bit of a big ask.
Also there's a bit of Dyche hangover.
Lindstrom has had just over a month of playing something close to his actual game. 3 sides in 18 months and ended up at an Everton side with multiple personality syndrome (the rigid style of play and lump it long).
A bit more attack minded play, a bit more trust the lads at the back, and looking to get the ball to the feet of the striker facing the goal has seen us turn into almost the top recent form side in the league.
Lindstrom gets to season end before any great declarations, his pace could be important in a front four of
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That's a good front 4
 
His last league goal or assist was February 2023 so unfortunately we shouldn’t be aiming for a player with that output to be in our starting front 4

Has had a good spell under Moyes though
 

How many goals and assists has he got ?

I'm sure there is a player there but €20 million seems a lot for his level of contribution
Hasn’t done enough.

If he was with Palace this season, produced nothing, and we bought him for 20 million this summer, the club would be rightly skewered.

He’s a 5-6 million squad player.
 
His last league goal or assist was February 2023 so unfortunately we shouldn’t be aiming for a player with that output to be in our starting front 4

Has had a good spell under Moyes though

Should only be interested really in what he does for Everton and if he improves, well be has improved because Moyes has been playing him, but the question remains has he improved enough. We need more output from him, has shown it in flashes but goals and assists are important.
 
We shouldnt be keeping either of our two ‘wingers’. The only compliment you can give Harrison is that he works hard. His output is woefully. Lindstrom too. I get that we need a squad, but I would much rather we spent what it would cost to retain one or both of those on a couple of punt from lower / foreign leagues.

We cannot expect to put the past five seasons or so behind us if ‘works hard’ continues to be the primary requirement. Lindstrom and Harrison both did good things a few years ago, but the same applied to Dele Alli. we simply don't have the luxury of having quad members who bring nothing to the table in terms of goals and assists. Gana does more than either of them in that area and he is our holding midfielder? Thank them both, but send them back, try someone else.
 

It doesn't have to be either or choice mate , there are other players out there.

The fact that someone was stupid enough to give us £10 million for Dobbin shouldn't mean that we make the same mistake.
Didn’t say it was binary, I said ‘Dobbin type’……
Besides I’m keen to hear who these better players that can be had for less than €20m / £17m (if that is indeed the option cost) are…..

23 year old Jadon Philogene cost £20m and has the grand total of 0 goals and 0 assists.

Sinistera (25) at Bournemouth cost more and has 3 goals and a couple of assists in 28 games.

Personally think Lindstrom has been quite unlucky not to have scored and certainly unlucky not to have had a few assists. And lets not forget the bulk of his time here has been Dycheball. One only has to look at Beto to appreciate what that can do to an attacker.
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Appreciate the most important stats for an attacker are goals scored and assists, but like I say, I think he’s been unlucky and it’s coming.
 
Both Lidstrom and Harrison have the rest of the season to convince Moyes or their having any worth to keep here. Unless Ndiaye comes back ( and i'd rather we made sure we didn't rush him back) then they should have a decent run of games. They need to show a lot more than they currently do. Good place to be though. If they demonstrate that they can give a whole lot more then great, of if they don't then not a problem. At least they're not here on 5 year contracts like so many others have been over the last decade.
 
Tough one for me Lindstrom, I remembered him at Frankfurt and thought he was some player, clearly hasnt worked at Napoli, and under Dyche I felt like he was a sacrificial lamb 😂.

Moyes clearly knows him from Frankfurt as he made a beeline for him when he rejoined, I wonder how much of it is confidence and being loved with him.

He clearly works hard, he just needs a bit of a better final ball - or potentially a goal or two to boost him. if its 20m euros - I dont think its a bad deal when you look at how you can structure the deals in Europe.

We arent getting Harrison on loan again, I wouldnt pay the money Leeds would be asking for for him (even though he has been decent for the last 2 games)
 
Didn’t say it was binary, I said ‘Dobbin type’……
Besides I’m keen to hear who these better players that can be had for less than €20m / £17m (if that is indeed the option cost) are…..

23 year old Jadon Philogene cost £20m and has the grand total of 0 goals and 0 assists.

Sinistera (25) at Bournemouth cost more and has 3 goals and a couple of assists in 28 games.

Personally think Lindstrom has been quite unlucky not to have scored and certainly unlucky not to have had a few assists. And lets not forget the bulk of his time here has been Dycheball. One only has to look at Beto to appreciate what that can do to an attacker.
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Appreciate the most important stats for an attacker are goals scored and assists, but like I say, I think he’s been unlucky and it’s coming.
As always, it's pointless asking us plebs on here who we should be signing with the money, because it's not our job to know. Clearly you can sign players who make a difference for that sort of money - Ndiaye is the obvious example for us - and so asking exactly who we should be targeting is a bit daft. Arguing that we should sign him because you see something in him is fine, but arguing that we should sign him because you couldn't possibly get someone decent for the same money is just plain wrong.
 
As always, it's pointless asking us plebs on here who we should be signing with the money, because it's not our job to know. Clearly you can sign players who make a difference for that sort of money - Ndiaye is the obvious example for us - and so asking exactly who we should be targeting is a bit daft. Arguing that we should sign him because you see something in him is fine, but arguing that we should sign him because you couldn't possibly get someone decent for the same money is just plain wrong.
Thank you. Couldn't have put it better. I'm sure that Moyes and Thelwell have more than a vague idea who they can get in
 

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