2024/25 David Moyes

[Gilbert..]

I sat through the entire discussion just floored by how the two people who seemed like they understood the game the most (by far) were Tim Sherwood and Paul Merson. Never thought that could be possible. A perfect display of why those four people don't properly work in football, and instead just fill programming time cluelessly chatting.

1min 50 in. "The feeling was Sean Dyche was getting the most out of these players"

Thats coz what he fooled people into thinking. Its what he rolled out in every interview. He played it like a violin. Im the best they can get. Trust me it aint getting any better. Im as good as it gets.

Its been a while since ive seen a manager exposed as much as Dyche has in the space of 5 or 6 weeks. This isnt just a new manager bounce. You can see every player has been lifted by him leaving. When you sit there in a press conference every week and tell the media the players are basically crap and its me me me keeping them up its no wonder they are delighted he's gone.
Dyche got properly found out.

 

[YoboCopter]

Exactly. My jaw dropped when the two of them finished their bits, shockingly having said mostly reasonable enough things, then the other two would blather on with the level of utter ignorance that would usually result in people shaking their heads then faces dropping to palms, followed by phrases like "I don't even know where to start with that," if it were said at the pub. Also, how on Earth does Clinton Morrison have a high level punditry career? Nothing player, adds no insight whatsoever, and can't even speak near clearly.

Micah richards the same
Just laughs

 

[Titus Bramble]

First half today was fantastic. We were better in every department, but they carried that threat down our right with Dorgu.

It’s a shame Linsdtrom had to come off, but if he’s unwell he did well to last as long as he did. We lost some of our pace with that enforced change and naturally we had sit deeper to accommodate. We were still in control, but the referee gave them the opportunity to get back into it and they took it.

We were robbed of the chance of winning it at the end. There’s no discussion needed over it… if that incident happened at the other end the VAR check would have last 5 seconds and the penalty would have stood. A scandalous decision.

Bigger picture: 14 points from 6 games, comfortably away from relegation and we're now a team who can score goals and play a bit as well. I’ll take it.

 

[alwaysblue]

First half today was fantastic. We were better in every department, but they carried that threat down our right with Dorgu.

It’s a shame Linsdtrom had to come off, but if he’s unwell he did well to last as long as he did. We lost some of our pace with that enforced change and naturally we had sit deeper to accommodate. We were still in control, but the referee gave them the opportunity to get back into it and they took it.

We were robbed of the chance of winning it at the end. There’s no discussion needed over it… if that incident happened at the other end the VAR check would have last 5 seconds and the penalty would have stood. A scandalous decision.

Bigger picture: 14 points from 6 games, comfortably away from relegation and we're now a team who can score goals and play a bit as well. I’ll take it.

Spot on

 

[Grfirestorm]

Giving up a two goal lead is disappointing but we did the same v Spurs and others this season, it’s a weakness in the team. However but for an awful VAR decision, Moyes would be what, 5 wins a draw and defeat in 7 matches. That by any stretch is a brilliant turn around. He’s turned Beto into a goal machine.

 

[davek]

Giving up a two goal lead is disappointing but we did the same v Spurs and others this season, it’s a weakness in the team. However but for an awful VAR decision, Moyes would be what, 5 wins a draw and defeat in 7 matches. That by any stretch is a brilliant turn around. He’s turned Beto into a goal machine.

We also went out of the cup in that period of games.

So,

2 defeats
4 wins
2 draws

 

[Marius57]

We also went out of the cup in that period of games.

So,

2 defeats
4 wins
2 draws

Best to be out of the cup anyway as it’s a ‘dangerous distraction’ when in a relegation battle like we were in.

So his two defeats are his first game when he had been in charge for a matter of hours, and a cup game that we were probably best off being out of to focus on the league considering the relegation danger once Leicester hire Dyche.

 

[bicycleheader]

We also went out of the cup in that period of games.

So,

2 defeats
4 wins
2 draws

And about 5000 useless posts from you

 

[davek]

Best to be out of the cup anyway as it’s a ‘dangerous distraction’ when in a relegation battle like we were in.

So his two defeats are his first game when he had been in charge for a matter of hours, and a cup game that we were probably best off being out of to focus on the league considering the relegation danger once Leicester hire Dyche.

And about 5000 useless posts from you

The point being made is that the 'unqualified' success many believe he's made since coming back does, in fact, have to be qualified.

 

[Titus Bramble]

The point being made is that the 'unqualified' success many believe he's made since coming back does, in fact, have to be qualified.

Literally no one has said it’s unqualified success

 

[davek]

Literally no one has said it’s unqualified success

They haven't literally said that, no. But the view is that this has been smooth running so far. I say there's signs in there that we've been hopeless on occasion (Villa, Bourenmouth, 2nd half today) and we've been hanging on in some games (Spurs) and hanging on and playing hardly any football (Brighton).

We've been impressive in the derby and against Leicester.

 

[hallamblue]

The point being made is that the 'unqualified' success many believe he's made since coming back does, in fact, have to be qualified.

He's won more games in a month than Dyche managed in half a season, I think we can call that a success.

 

[davek]

He's won more games in a month than Dyche managed in half a season, I think we can call that a success.

It's improvement; it's never 'success'.

 

[Bluelenny1984]

They haven't literally said that, no. But the view is that this has been smooth running so far. I say there's signs in there that we've been hopeless on occasion (Villa, Bourenmouth, 2nd half today) and we've been hanging on in some games (Spurs) and hanging on and playing hardly any football (Brighton).

We've been impressive in the derby and against Leicester.

Have we made progress?? Have we improved?? There the questions we should be answering, and the answer is yes massively.

Not are we flawless or the finished article, or have we dominated every minute of every game.

 

[hallamblue]

It's improvement; it's never 'success'.

A success, not success. Success is winning things.