The Now-Irrelevant 2024/25 Relegation Battle (Without Everton!)

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No. That's just purgatory.

If Moyes can get us to 6th, then he MUST be challenged with getting us a pot and a CL place. THESE are the standards any manager of this club - assuming he is financially-backed - MUST be held to.

Ambition is not 12th, 7th, 6th, 8th, 6th, 7th...

Ambition is to win cups, win derbies, win at Arsenal or Chelsea every so often, get into Europe, get into the CL, win the league.

If the Friedkins are serious owners, these will be the things they will demand. If they are simply Kenwright with a ten-gallon hat, then the "old" ambition of Blue Bill will quickly resurface with the old Moyes as its acceptable face.

He MUST be backed, and he MUST build a serious "elite" team if he is. He said he wanted to see elite players in our elite new stadium. Over to the Friedkins, first and foremost, now.
That’s exactly what I said we had, and want back, when we got rid of Moyes first time.

We got rid of him, cos he hit a ceiling of 5th and we had ambitions beyond that and wanted to push on. As it turned out we didn’t, and have ended back where we started.

Agree with the backing in the summer stuff.
 
I totally believe Moyes can get us top 5 and in Europe even in a year. I really do. I just don’t see him anymore as a Kenwright leftover. Not at all. See, Kenwright was who he was until the bitter end. Moyes is a changed man in my eyes.

The David Moyes of almost two decades ago and this version aren’t even the same person. He’s wise. I can see he has success and regret woven into him that he’s chosen to learn from and become better. I really do believe in him.

You may not ageee, but I think he’s a far superior manager right now to Arteta, Pep, and Slot and I’ll tell you why. Arsenal, the RS, and Citeh have everything they want, a limitless budget, they get what they want, they’re protected by the PL. Just about any idiot could go in tomorrow and manage those clubs. All you have to do is start the same guys, point to the pitch, and tell them to go make football.

Moyes has instantly elevated and transformed us. He’s dealt with injuries and yet we still get better. Arsenal draws one match and Mikel’s head is about to pop like a swollen tick. Citeh lose a bunch in a row because Rodri goes down and the whole thing goes to sh—. Pep has no clue what to do. Slot drew with us and had a temper tantrum and got booked. Pathetic.

Those clubs are just the best paid guns for hire with zero loyalty. This version of Moyes is brilliant. He’s out-managing all of them.
 


The more games go by where the bottom 4 pick up nothing makes it that much more mathematically impossible for us to ever be threatened.
Wouldn't worry bout it anymore. Was starting to get worried for a bit when Ipswich took the lead yesterday out of habit more than anything. Good now to be looking more at West Ham, Man Utd, Spurs than Leicester, Ipswich etc
 

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