2024/25 David Moyes

[Marius57]

And when the going got tough and we needed players who could dig in, there wouldn’t be enough room for all the Onanas on the bench!

We talking about the same Onana that rejected Arsenal in a January window so as not to desert us in a relegation battle?

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Take DCL for example, we signed him for 1.5m, he scored 21 goals, then his leg fella off, all the research in the world cant help with that.

Are you saying DCL’s form fell off a cliff when his dog stopped humping his leg?

 

[knowing your history]

We ain't getting anybody for 5m anymore, just cos a few clubs lucked a player or 2 doesn't mean they are all there ready to buy.

But price doesn't matter, players have been bought from 60k to 215m.

A good player is cheap at 90m, a bad player is expensive at 5m.

Picking up a Branners for 1m is possible, for sure, but it requires a lot of luck.

Also worth noting that Branners wasn't really ready for first team contention for nearly three years after his debut. First played during lockdown and then became week in week out player in 23/24. I guess he could've become that the previous season given his success at PSV.

Seamus another who went out on loan first to Blackpool and then was ready once he returned.

Plenty laud Brighton's transfer but again they sign plenty and then loan them out, Caciedo went out to Belgium for a year before becoming a regular for example.

Going to need Moyes to come up with 3-4 solid signings to have a real go at top 10 next season imo.

We know the mess at full back, it remains average and one paced out wide and also going to need two decent CFs to rotate as decent end to the season and Beto will be sold back to Serie A I reckon.

O.k areas are central midfield if Alcaraz does well and CB as hopefully we'll see O'Brien move inside next year so you have him, Branthwaite, another signing and then Tarks as the experienced head as cover.

Too much to do in one window really. Next season is all about starting a season well for once and getting some early wins at BMD so keep on ticking along from that momentum. Don't really want to think about another year opening with 3-4 defeats as then Moyes will come under pressure but could happen if waiting until end of August to get in key signings.

 

[Neiler]

Still want to sign Broja again next season mate? If you do I've got an old car to sell you, got no doors, wheels or engine, but easy to fix and it'll be a bargain.

100% mate, many a multi millionaire made money from what other people considered junk.

 

[Simon Buttle]

100% mate, many a multi millionaire made money from what other people considered junk.

You have yet to provide any evidence as to why you think Broja will be successful, everything within his numbers suggests him to be a poor player, every metric mate.

 

[Rehnman]

We talking about the same Onana that rejected Arsenal in a January window so as not to desert us in a relegation battle?

No, the Onana who was subbed at 4 down to Chelsea, then kept on the bench as we won the next 3 games to stay up.

 

[Neiler]

You have yet to provide any evidence as to why you think Broja will be successful, everything within his numbers suggests him to be a poor player, every metric mate.

This isnt court mate!

Hes a player i like, , see potential and i think could really develop into a top class footballer. Its a judgement on a lot of aspects of key attributes and technical core ability.

In a nut shell i see quality and as a rule i always back quality.

In a counter its like Harrison Armstrong, hes done noting in the game so how do you know he will be a good player.

There's way more to football then tranfermarkt will tell you. Arent we always saying lets pick up players with quality potential before its fully developed and cultivate it here before other clubs cotton on. In the next breath then its often "numbers aren't great". People were saying the same thing about Illy in the summer.

My hesitation with Broja would be his injuries - but if anyone has his medical data we do.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

No, the Onana who was subbed at 4 down to Chelsea, then kept on the bench as we won the next 3 games to stay up.

He may have been trying to relegate us so he could get a bigger signing on fee!

 

[Simon Buttle]

This isnt court mate!

Hes a player i like, , see potential and i think could really develop into a top class footballer. Its a judgement on a lot of aspects of key attributes and technical core ability.

In a nut shell i see quality and as a rule i always back quality.

In a counter its like Harrison Armstrong, hes done noting in the game so how do you know he will be a good player.

There's way more to football then tranfermarkt will tell you. Arent we always saying lets pick up players with quality potential before its fully developed and cultivate it here before other clubs cotton on. In the next breath then its often "numbers aren't great". People were saying the same thing about Illy in the summer.

My hesitation with Broja would be his injuries - but if anyone has his medical data we do.

It is when you are asking the club to waste £30m on an injury prone striker who doesn't score goals and we are desperate for them. If we can get that fee down to £10-15m then maybe as backup but Chelsea will never agree. Also just on the medical side, well my day job is exercise physiology and trust me mate, Id stay well clear of someone with his record but its also because I don't trust the medical team at the club, its just a bad combo together imo. Harrison Armstrong needs games mate, no idea what he will do, would rather he had them here but Moyes is the wrong guy for youngsters like him. Fair play though but you do seem to be in the minority here and with little to back it up I can't see what you think you are seeing as it certainly isn't goals! You could well end up being right though.

 

[Lanolin]

This isnt court mate!

Hes a player i like, , see potential and i think could really develop into a top class footballer. Its a judgement on a lot of aspects of key attributes and technical core ability.

In a nut shell i see quality and as a rule i always back quality.

In a counter its like Harrison Armstrong, hes done noting in the game so how do you know he will be a good player.

There's way more to football then tranfermarkt will tell you. Arent we always saying lets pick up players with quality potential before its fully developed and cultivate it here before other clubs cotton on. In the next breath then its often "numbers aren't great". People were saying the same thing about Illy in the summer.

My hesitation with Broja would be his injuries - but if anyone has his medical data we do.

For what it's worth i'm with you. I wouldn't sign him because it seems like he's made of Balsa wood and the price is likely to make it way too much of a risk but I think he's a player with talent and if he can ever manage to get properly fit he'll do well somewhere.

 

[davek]

I'm still wondering where this feller's intensity is btw.

That's another press conference gone by and all he needs is an Arran jumper and he's as laid back as Val Doonican (ask yer dads).

Just no spark to him. And he's like that on the touchline. The difference between Moyes volume 1 to Moyes volume 2 is incredible...and not in a good way.

 

[MikeH72]

I'm still wondering where this feller's intensity is btw.

That's another press conference gone by and all he needs is an Arran jumper and he's as laid back as Val Doonican (ask yer dads).

Just no spark to him. And he's like that on the touchline. The difference between Moyes volume 1 to Moyes volume 2 is incredible...and not in a good way.

I’m wondering where your energy to scrutinise Sean Dyche’s soul crushingly depressing and pointless press conferences ever was.

 

[summerisle]

I'm still wondering where this feller's intensity is btw.

That's another press conference gone by and all he needs is an Arran jumper and he's as laid back as Val Doonican (ask yer dads).

Just no spark to him. And he's like that on the touchline. The difference between Moyes volume 1 to Moyes volume 2 is incredible...and not in a good way.

Exactly, we need more of this :

 

[Neiler]

It is when you are asking the club to waste £30m on an injury prone striker who doesn't score goals and we are desperate for them. If we can get that fee down to £10-15m then maybe as backup but Chelsea will never agree. Also just on the medical side, well my day job is exercise physiology and trust me mate, Id stay well clear of someone with his record but its also because I don't trust the medical team at the club, its just a bad combo together imo. Harrison Armstrong needs games mate, no idea what he will do, would rather he had them here but Moyes is the wrong guy for youngsters like him. Fair play though but you do seem to be in the minority here and with little to back it up I can't see what you think you are seeing as it certainly isn't goals! You could well end up being right though.

On your first sentence mate luckily the club rarely listens to my requests.

Im not so sure Chelsea wouldn't agree, i think we have leverage - if hes as worthless as other suggest, Chelsea options are limited, while i assume we've treated him well and looked after him, we have a big upside for the lad and player wishes come into this.

As i said i think the lad has quality to be cultivated. Bat his fitness lets be honest, clubs would be throwing around bids of 30 mill for him - Chelsea gave him a bumper new contract because they saw his value going one way. Id take on board his fitness, some people just dont have bodies that can withstand professional sport, im not asking the club to make that decision blindly - i assume we would make it with a full review of his medical and S/C data and profile. If that analysis is to risky, then we walk away - we arent a charity. But that's an unknown.

Not sure on Moyes either - hes developed a fair few waifs and strays - no more then here in his time. i know you arent a fan of his.

You can see Harrison Armstrong's quality a mile off, i can tell you now with prob about 2 games under his belt he is 100% a PL footballer in the making, with a good shot at being an international. 100%, you can see the quality a mile off in core technical ability and innate attributes.

Same as you can Broja really. Broja has quality, he needs a break with his fitness, a home and someone to cultivate his talent and give him the foundation. Given that and our circumstances - i can se ethe logic for another 1 year loan - would i drop £30 mill in the summer on him - no.

 

[Goat]

I'm still wondering where this feller's intensity is btw.

That's another press conference gone by and all he needs is an Arran jumper and he's as laid back as Val Doonican (ask yer dads).

Just no spark to him. And he's like that on the touchline. The difference between Moyes volume 1 to Moyes volume 2 is incredible...and not in a good way.

He's performing media duties that's he's done 2 or 3 times a week for 30 years when he's been asked the same boring and tired questions day after day.

I'm shocked he's not dancing.