Everton January 2025 Transfer Thread

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TheNinja said:
We're staying up, not too arsed about spaffing money right now on the next Tosun or Straq.

Joined up plan in the Summer when we know for sure what out of contract players we need to replace.

Wouldn't say no to another foreign loan like, if it became available.
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Fully agreed we have wasted enough money, even in the period when we’ve had none.
We have had so many squad players on long contracts draining money for the past 10 years.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
Teams do spend money. You talk up spending £60m for Ancelotti on 3 players. It's part of the game. Bournemouth have spent £250m net the past couple of seasons. Villa £400m+ under Emery. Don't get me started on Forest, West Ham and Man Utd. Chelsea have spent more under Boehly than we have in our entire history.

My point is, the narrative around Everton's recruitment under Koeman as being the reason we've been on our arse is nowhere near the full picture. It's a con. A lazy narrative.

Split the years however you like 3 years, 5 years, 10 years, Everton are never near the front of spend. Often we're bottom 2. Sure, we've signed some crap - but that's football - so has every team. Read a Man Utd or West Ham forum...

The stadium, and a board who didn't anticipate Russia's war/Usmanov's taps off is biggest factor and they never get mentioned.

[Edit] Just realised I'm a bit off topic here. BUY PLAYERS EVERTON FFS.
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I agree
I would also add to this that switching up managers so regularly is not helpful, finding someone good and sticking with them seems to be what works
 

GrandOldTeam said:
Teams do spend money. You talk up spending £60m for Ancelotti on 3 players. It's part of the game. Bournemouth have spent £250m net the past couple of seasons. Villa £400m+ under Emery. Don't get me started on Forest, West Ham and Man Utd. Chelsea have spent more under Boehly than we have in our entire history.

My point is, the narrative around Everton's recruitment under Koeman as being the reason we've been on our arse is nowhere near the full picture. It's a con. A lazy narrative.

Split the years however you like 3 years, 5 years, 10 years, Everton are never near the front of spend. Often we're bottom 2. Sure, we've signed some crap - but that's football - so has every team. Read a Man Utd or West Ham forum...

The stadium, and a board who didn't anticipate Russia's war/Usmanov's taps off is biggest factor and they never get mentioned.

[Edit] Just realised I'm a bit off topic here. BUY PLAYERS EVERTON FFS.
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I really disagree - I agree its not the full picture, but describing it as a con isn't right. Yes the board didn't anticipate COVID, war in Ukraine etc, and we were uniquely affected by these things - but our spending prior to these two huge events also left us uniquely vulnerable. As did failure to secure proper stadium financing of course - but spending loads on guff is also a huge part of it.

Moreover, the reason I bring up Ancelotti is because despite these things, we didn't then slow down the spending/turn the taps off - if anything we accelerated our spending on a huge gamble that Ancelotti would take us into the top 6. I don't think comparisons to Bournemouth and Villa capture that; we were making record breaking losses, Usmanov was being sanctioned and the £200m stadium rights had fallen through, COVID was at its worst - and we still went out and spent loads!

It is slightly off topic though, you're right - but I do think its important to discuss, especially having gone into this window pining for multiple recruitments and likely only coming away with 1, maybe 2 at a push - its part of the Friedkins strategy of repairing our finances, and knowing the context behind it is key imo
 
Jebus_lives said:
@davek entire argument is that Dyche was hamstrung by poor ownership and no funds leaving him with a poor squad - therefore he had to grind out results, keep us relegation free and wait for the summer when we can offload low contribution players for quality and that the manager was doing a good job.

His argument now (and he's either being contrary for contrarian sake or he's a flat out moron) is that despite being 9 points better off and having a good buffer between us and the teams below us (having won as many games under a new manager in 4 matches as the previous manager managed in 19) we are having our expectations lowered and we now apparently:

Need the players we were waiting to offload in the summer

Have had our expectations lowered

The new owners should be spending big now and not wait until the summer

Don't try and search for logic, there isn't any.
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Well that was a much more eloquent way of saying what I said a few post back. ;)
 

Tilling said:
We know that isn't true though - the wages we spent relative to our turnover was horrendous. In 19/20, 20/21, 21/22 it was 89%, 95%, 90% - that's an insanely high amount for a club that was also building a new stadium at the same time almost purely out of owner funding! 2nd highest in the Prem I believe. I don't think two or three successful signings would have transformed the situation - you're looking at a bigger number than that I think.

I agree though - the bigger problem is spending on [Poor language removed] rather than spending full stop - which is why I'm pleased we haven't gone out and panic bought a striker like many were pining for before Beto's brace on Saturday
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What is the percentage now?
 
Tilling said:
We know that isn't true though - the wages we spent relative to our turnover was horrendous. In 19/20, 20/21, 21/22 it was 89%, 95%, 90% - that's an insanely high amount for a club that was also building a new stadium at the same time almost purely out of owner funding! 2nd highest in the Prem I believe. I don't think two or three successful signings would have transformed the situation - you're looking at a bigger number than that I think.

I agree though - the bigger problem is spending on [Poor language removed] rather than spending full stop - which is why I'm pleased we haven't gone out and panic bought a striker like many were pining for before Beto's brace on Saturday
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It would be complete negligence to come out of this window with just 1 fit striker... I agree with not panic buying but we are in a situation where we need to get someone in.
 

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