Today’s Football - 2024/25 Season

[Kevsleftpeg]

I agree with this.

No genuine attempt to win the ball. Only intent is to kick the player/bring him down.

The game should red card those type of fouls.

Arsenal are one of the worse for intentional "foul the player on the break" - this one was just too obvious.



The top teams use it against teams that look to counter attack.

Got away with it for too long.

100% agree and it favours teams like City, Liverpool and Arsenal. They want to stop counter attacks at all costs and if that means a deliberate foul then they'll do it. I don't know what's happened to the football culture in this country. This was the type of cynicism that we used to hate but we now just accept it along with the "he's entitled to go down" argument. A large part of the problem is that pundits like Shearer are morons and have big platforms.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Final day of the season, relegation on the line, a call like yesterdays gets made, hundreds of millions of pounds on the line, the very existence of a club.

The gravity of the how's and whys and when's the rules are applied, who to, and who not to has to come into focus.

We had fisticuffs at FT yesterday. There was a full show down at FT in a wolves game a couple of months ago.

Peoples livelihoods are on the line. "It's only a game" doesn't pay the mortgage next month. The seriousness of failure and corruption will come home to roost eventually.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

People call them 'professional fouls', which clearly implies that there is no intent to win the ball: it's to stop the team having the advantage.

If people are saying he didn't deserve the punishment he received, they need to give their heads a wobble.

The problem I think is that for me fouls like this are cheating rather than an inadvertent infringement of the rules. And cheating should be punished severely. It's ultimately an ethical question but most people can't distinguish between the two situations. It's the difference between accidentally buying the wrong ticket for a train and deliberately bunking on. Unfortunately, there are a lot of Jobsworths in this world who can't see the difference.

 

[Brennan]

Yes mate. Read a dictionary.

It wasn’t a stamp. There was very little force, leg was already extended before the Wolves player came into contact.

It was a cynical trip with no clear goal scoring opportunity, not a red card offence.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

It wasn’t a stamp. There was very little force, leg was already extended before the Wolves player came into contact.

It was a cynical trip with no clear goal scoring opportunity, not a red card offence.

Nope his leg went from high to low. Miles away from the ball. Red every day of the week.

 

[Chegsy]

Seen a couple of times yesterday a City player bring a Chelsea player down with no intention of winning the ball and sole intention of stopping a break. Booking was given and I don't think I'd bat an eyelid if a booking was given yesterday. Think he's sent off because of their obsession with "studs up" tackling personally.

 

[daza_1973]

Simply can't understand what Lineker and his overpaid chums are on. The Arsenal lad clearly stamped on the Wolves man's ankle.

Red card every time. Move on with the game.

Scab six team different media agenda. Pundits are an embarrassment on MOTD.
Shearer in particular- there seems to be a clause that they have to show a graphic that he is Newcastle's / the prems all time top scorer every time he's on it.

 

[Nymzee]

I agree with this.

No genuine attempt to win the ball. Only intent is to kick the player/bring him down.

The game should red card those type of fouls.

Arsenal are one of the worse for intentional "foul the player on the break" - this one was just too obvious.



The top teams use it against teams that look to counter attack.

Got away with it for too long.

You say they should be red carded for it, but by the letter of the law, it’s not a red card offence unless you’re last man.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

You say they should be red carded for it, but by the letter of the law, it’s not a red card offence unless you’re last man.

He was red carded for serious foul play, not being being the last man. Kicking someone with no intention or possibility of winning the ball is serious foul play and should be red carded. I agree that it seldom is and refs generally only give a yellow but this example was so blatant that the red was justified. You can’t just kick players miles away from the ball.

 

[Mozza1987]

It's not about the severity of the foul. It's about the fact that there was no intent to play the ball. There's a massive difference between a mistimed or I'll judged tackle which is a genuine attempt to win the ball and deliberately kicking someone miles away from the ball to stop a counter attack. If that distinction isn't obvious to you I can't really help you.

So we sending someone off for pulling someone back then in the same position as they didn't play the ball at all?

 

[Nymzee]

He was red carded for serious foul play, not being being the last man. Kicking someone with no intention or possibility of winning the ball is serious foul play and should be red carded. I agree that it seldom is and refs generally only give a yellow but this example was so blatant that the red was justified. You can’t just kick players miles away from the ball.

I never said he was sent off for being last man. I said cyclical fouls to stop counters, which it was, are only red card offences if you’re the last man (or serious foul play).

That was neither. Challenges like that happen every game.

You want a rule change more than anything.

 

[bluelife]

Wonder if Leicester beating Spurs later would be statistically preferable for us

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

So we sending someone off for pulling someone back then in the same position as they didn't play the ball at all?

Yes.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

I never said he was sent off for being last man. I said cyclical fouls to stop counters, which it was, are only red card offences if you’re the last man (or serious foul play).

That was neither. Challenges like that happen every game.

You want a rule change more than anything.

Cyclical? It was serious foul play because it was so far away from the ball. How late does a tackle need to be for it not to be a tackle and just to be a kick on an opponent?

 

[Mozza1987]

Yes.

That's ridiculous, be no one left on the pitch