New manager

[Drico]

I feel like a Mourinho appointment taps into the same delusional hope that we experienced with Dele.

It's a glamorous appointment but based on his recent track record is a HUGE gamble.

He's very clearly on the decline and has a HUGE ego.

It's a Moshiri kind of appointment.

Have we learned nothing?

Get him in!

Dele and Mourinho are comparable in much the same way Christine Bleakley can be compared with Oprah.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Maybe we need a bit of turmoil... Safey McSafe face Dyche might just be too safe and stable for us. Douse the place in petrol and chuck Jose the box of matches, lets see what happens

We’ve had turmoil since Ancelotti left

I’ve had my fill thanks

Dyche has been part of the turmoil

 

[Blue_Eagle]

Our fans are rife with self-sabotage.

And many, many other problems like...

 

[ForeverEverton]

Sean Dyche
1 x Championship
2 x Relegation

Jose Mourinho
4 x Worlds Best Coach
2 x Champions League
3 x Premier Leagues
2 x Serie A
1 x La Liga
1 x Europa League
1 x UEFA Cup
1 x Europe Conference League
1 x FA Cup
1 x Spanish Cup
1 x Italian Cup
4 x English League Cup
2 x Community Shields
1 x Spanish Super Cup Winner

Yet some actually believe we will be worse off.. these people have a special way of thinking!

Mourinho is defo a manager that will speak up for his club and he would never accept the horrendous refereeing decisions we have had to endure in recent years!

 

[bluestevon]

Obviously Mourinho is a hugely successful manager

That doesn’t mean he’s the right option for us

Right now we need someone who is either sensible, forward thinking, or both

Mourinho is neither

He’s a psycho who lives in the short term and inevitably flames out after a couple of seasons

We’re only just coming out of a period of sustained turmoil

Mourinho will launch us back into it

I’m sad to say it, but right now we need someone safe, sensible and boring who is going to get us chugging along in mid table for a bit until we can make the appointment that’s going to take the club forwards

That doesn’t mean I’m “turning my nose up” or that I don’t think Mourinho is good enough to manage Everton (although that is 100% what I’ll be accused of, because the internet)

It just means that I think right now, in the January of 2025, Jose Mourinho and Everton are a terrible fit

In the past it might have worked, and maybe even in the future, but not right now

I pretty much agree, the one caveat I'd say though is that what Mourinho does bring is a complete winning mentality to a club, and boy that's something we have had maybe one season since Martinez and not many before that either.

Would it be worth the risk, that's the question, would Mourinho see us safe, I think that's a no brainer he'd manage it tbh, would it make the first season at BMD an even more memorable one, pretty sure it would too, would it enable recruitment if players we'd not have thought possible - again yup.

Would we be able to get all those positives without and still put in place a mong term recruitment and building plan....

That's the conundrum. The thought of a Mourinho taking a club and really investing in it long term is always the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow but like that I don't think it ever exists.

Funnily enough though taking an Everton side at the lowest ebb in its history, really committing himself to it and turning it back over a 6-7 year period to being a club it once was would cement his legacy as possibly the greatest ever manager, just don't think it's in his nature to do so though

 

[Blue_Eagle]

Sean Dyche
1 x Championship
2 x Relegation

Jose Mourinho
4 x Worlds Best Coach
2 x Champions League
3 x Premier Leagues
2 x Serie A
1 x La Liga
1 x Europa League
1 x UEFA Cup
1 x Europe Conference League
1 x FA Cup
1 x Spanish Cup
1 x Italian Cup
4 x English League Cup
2 x Community Shields
1 x Spanish Super Cup Winner

Yet some actually believe we will be worse off.. these people have a special way of thinking!

Mourinho is defo a manager that will speak up for his club and he would never accept the horrendous refereeing decisions we have had to endure in recent years!

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Yes yes yes, we're all aware how successful he's been in the PAST....

Talk to us about his last 3-4 clubs however.

SHOCKING.

 

[matty1878]

Obviously Mourinho is a hugely successful manager

That doesn’t mean he’s the right option for us

Right now we need someone who is either sensible, forward thinking, or both

Mourinho is neither

He’s a psycho who lives in the short term and inevitably flames out after a couple of seasons

We’re only just coming out of a period of sustained turmoil

Mourinho will launch us back into it

I’m sad to say it, but right now we need someone safe, sensible and boring who is going to get us chugging along in mid table for a bit until we can make the appointment that’s going to take the club forwards

That doesn’t mean I’m “turning my nose up” or that I don’t think Mourinho is good enough to manage Everton (although that is 100% what I’ll be accused of, because the internet)

It just means that I think right now, in the January of 2025, Jose Mourinho and Everton are a terrible fit

In the past it might have worked, and maybe even in the future, but not right now

get to bed mikey

let us imagine you bore you

WINNING MENTALITY lifts this club no end

 

[AndyP94]

Sean Dyche
1 x Championship
2 x Relegation

Jose Mourinho
4 x Worlds Best Coach
2 x Champions League
3 x Premier Leagues
2 x Serie A
1 x La Liga
1 x Europa League
1 x UEFA Cup
1 x Europe Conference League
1 x FA Cup
1 x Spanish Cup
1 x Italian Cup
4 x English League Cup
2 x Community Shields
1 x Spanish Super Cup Winner
1 x Upcoming Premier League Relegation (Everton)
Yet some actually believe we will be worse off.. these people have a special way of thinking!

Mourinho is defo a manager that will speak up for his club and he would never accept the horrendous refereeing decisions we have had to endure in recent years!

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Finished it off for you . In all seriousness, he’s been a success but as others have said, he’s not the right fit. I don’t think he’d relegate us but it’s not as though he’s going to immediately move the club to the top half. If we where settled and already mid-table, he might have been the type to get you further up the ladder in the past.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Mourinho has been in massive decline for years now. Would any reasonable owner recruit him based off his achievements in the last 6 or 7 years? I think he's failed at something like his last 4 jobs right?

Yeah won utd a cup got Spurs to a cup final they fired him from a day before, got Roma to 2 European finals and won 1.. epic failure

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Yes yes yes, we're all aware how successful he's been in the PAST....

Talk to us about his last 3-4 clubs however.

SHOCKING.

Just the two European trophies delivered in his last 4 jobs. I’ll take that level of shocking.

 

[Drico]

Yeah I do t see it happening but thinking he's not still a very very good manager is stupid, he's outperformed the recent form for managers he's replaced and whom subsequently followed at all recent clubs for example.

Same as the negative footy thing gets thrown at him - it's negative in terms of what sours fans seem to want or united for example which is a return to Hoddle and Ozzie, or prime Ferguson's united. Is it negative compared to what we've witnessed under Koeman, Allardyce , Benetez and now Dyche - nope it's simply effective counter attacking footy which he brought to a new level actually and lots imitated after

I've never bought into ideological football. To me, pragmatism is necessary in every walk of life. He is a brilliant pragmatist. Ideologues creep me out. We had that with Roberto, and the evangelical glaze in his eyes as he described Aiden McGeady as "phenomenal." Ancelotti made a career out of pragmatism. He could play football with the best of them, but knew how to turn a game when, potentially, out-gunned. Mourinho is similar.

I want winning football - not beautiful football. If we can have both, so much the better, but that's merely a bonus. A manager like Mourinho will demand good players. Even if he sets up pragmatically, he will have technical players on that pitch, fellas who can mix it as well as play. We're used to donkeys in recent years at Everton. But donkeys don't win derbies (well, maybe occasionally).

 

[bluestevon]

Yeah won utd a cup got Spurs to a cup final they fired him from a day before, got Roma to 2 European finals and won 1.. epic failure

Won two cups at united mate they won the EL as well, reached another cup final on top and finished runner up to City

 

[Victus]

Yes yes yes, we're all aware how successful he's been in the PAST....

Talk to us about his last 3-4 clubs however.

SHOCKING.

I feel like you think you're making fantastic points right now but all I read is proper waffle.

 

[Blue_Eagle]

Just the two European trophies delivered in his last 4 jobs. I’ll take that level of shocking.

Ok both at Roma. What about all of those other failures in which he was sacked?

 

[Blue_Eagle]

I feel like you think you're making fantastic points right now but all I read is proper waffle.

That's because you've got waffles in your eyes mate!