The Now-Irrelevant 2024/25 Relegation Battle (Without Everton!)

[matty1878]

I’m just not sure history shows this? This squad is pretty awful. It’s worse than previous years by some distance. Why would we be comfortably above the relegation zone.

Look at the teams above us; united and West Ham. Both spent seriously large sums of money every years. West Ham around 300m net over three years (maybe more).

i bet when get the new manager we win far
more even with this squid

 

[matty1878]

Very few goals in the side ...tough to get points / wins.
Now is the time to switch to Broja and give him a proper run / or play him and DCL together,
I don't see us bringing in a major signing in Jan.

dyche will keep broja on the bench till his loan no doubt even tho we aren’t scoring

come on arsenal!

 

[TrailerTrash]

No-one wanting to shoot there for Arsenal.

 

[MACCA75]

No chance Dyche be sacked unless lose something like 8 or 9 games in a row and look to be relegated, new owners won't want a manager change till summer at the earliest and even then may prefer to keep dyche for a season or 2 see how he does with better players anyone thinking be sacked over next few weeks are in fantasy land

Fantasy land is thinking there is the remotest possibility that Dyche is manager in 2 years time.

 

[matty1878]

No chance Dyche be sacked unless lose something like 8 or 9 games in a row and look to be relegated, new owners won't want a manager change till summer at the earliest and even then may prefer to keep dyche for a season or 2 see how he does with better players anyone thinking be sacked over next few weeks are in fantasy land

keep dyche?

get to bed mate

 

[dockroad]

i bet when get the new manager we win far
more even with this squid

Doubtful .

 

[mikel_88]

dyche will keep broja on the bench till his loan no doubt even tho we aren’t scoring

come on arsenal!

Actually think he rates him when you look at the city game and put him on earlier than his 80 minute sub. Also think has everything in hos game for dyche to rate, i honestly think will use him alot more than we have from beto and maybe in a two with dcl

 

[James Patrick]

Fantasy land is thinking there is the remotest possibility that Dyche is manager in 2 years time.

We'll probably be through another couple of managers by then tbh.

 

[matty1878]

Actually think he rates him when you look at the city game and put him on earlier than his 80 minute sub. Also think has everything in hos game for dyche to rate, i honestly think will use him alot more than we have from beto and maybe in a two with dcl

a two? only if we’re needing a goal mate

 

[TrailerTrash]

Me watching the Arsenal game...

 

[Socistep2]

I think thats a good fair assessment.
3 Wins out of 17 is poor. This team and manager should be on 5/6 wins from 17. Thats not unrealistic. Puts us on 22/23 points. Again not unrealistic.

Agreed, the inability to turn draws into wins nor pull an unexpected win out the bag means we are close to the bottom 3

Last season in the first half of the season we went on a run of 3 away wins in London at palace, Brentford and west ham that we didn't really expect then as part of the 4 win run we beat Chelsea and Newcastle which again we wouldn't have expected

This season we generally have drawn those games

 

[knowing your history]

Back to back wins for Wolves suddenly makes things look rosier for them, but how long does it last? Confidence will still be fragile after their shocking start to the season and it will only take a couple of poor results for them to drop back into the bottom 3 and it's panic stations again. Plus the fact they will most likely be without Cunha for a handful of games once the PL get off their arses and sort out his punishment. They really gave themselves *a lot* to do to stay up this season.

Last season was *very* streaky... we gained something like 80% of our total points in 2x 2 month windows with not a lot else in between. I really can't see us going 14 games without a win this season, just as I can't see us winning 3 or 4 back to back, both if which we did last season.

You're right though, wins make all the difference. Draws are great at keeping the points ticking over and keeping your head there or thereabouts above water, but a win could be the difference between being 2 points clear of the relegation zone with 18th breathing down your neck, and being 5 points clear with a superior goal difference and all of a sudden you need a 2 game swing to go against us for us to drop back into it again with a couple of other teams below you in 16th and 17th for good measure.

Wolves should be hitting 35-36 points with the home games they have left, it's a pretty good second half of the season at Molineux with them playing loads of bottom half teams.

They've been that bad up to now and yet will likely end the first half of the season out of the bottom three so feels like they're over the worst now.

Main thing now is Leicester have a long winless run and they certainly have the feel of it shipping 3-4 goals regularly and a pretty old team in key areas so not sure Van Nistelrooy lasts the season at this stage as that seemed a bit of an impulsive appointment.

 

[murphy89]

i bet when get the new manager we win far
more even with this squid

Potentially. Think we would lose a lot more too. We’ve lost the same amount of games as City. I think our overall points total would remain around the same.

A new manager with investment? Sure. But just rolling the dice now when we’re not even in the bottom 3 is just a needless massive risk.

And before anyone points at Wolves. Let’s give it a few games and the Cunha ban to see where they end up.

Dyche goes end of the year. Why the clamour to sack him, pay compo and take the risk - unless we were in the bottom 3.

 

[Gilbert..]

Can smell an ipswich goal here. Arsenal havent put this to bed.

 

[Ring master]

Can smell an ipswich goal here. Arsenal havent put this to bed.

They do at the Min seem to be having a good go