2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[Deleted member 50501]

“This season is all about survival” appears to be coming from the manager though and certainly not the new owners. He would love our ambition to be 17th because that’s where he likes to operate to keep the bar of expectation on himself as low as possible, because it helps him cover up how basic and limited a manager he is.

We finished 12th last season and he couldn’t get in front of the media quick enough to tell us how it doesn’t count and it was a fluke and we’re back in a relegation battle because the players are crap. Frankly I’m astonished some of them still appear to be playing for them, all he’s done is slag them off since he got here and try to hoover up all the credit himself for any good performances.

Its a weird take because he's been at two PL clubs, Burnley, who hardly have a right to be hitting the great heights in the PL, and us, who were borrowing money to pay players wages last season. Those kinds of things are hardly conducive to success.

That's a different story now with Friedkin, if they can invest.

 

[mikel_88]

So maybe our owner should have found the funds to help us get up the table?

He turned off the taps.

People moaning about Dyche are still fighting the last war. He's history.

Agree with you on that just is still important we finish this season as high as we can, i am same as you think he is done can tell witth not giving players like obrien a chance ect. Just wont fit the plans style TFG have for the club; i have no probelm keeping dyche if he gets the points wins we need to get safe. Then end if the season he goes and we have already got a a new manager in place ready to before the end of the season. With plans in place what we will do in the summer

 

[nonstripdzebra]

And, for the avoidance of doubt, I am in no hurry to move on to our new era. That starts, as far as I'm concerned, on the day after the last day of this season. I hope Dyche sees out his contract. I think he's done an admirable job and he should keep it for as long as keeping him makes us more likely to survive than replacing him does.

This season is all about staying up. I'm very hopeful that we will - but will take nothing for granted until we can put significant space between us and the bottom three.

This is my sentiment. To start I think we will be safe with Dyche at the helm and I say that as someone who will be excited the day hes gone. But the distinction of hiring a manager for a last gasp survival campaign to one basically abe to build a squad from scratch this summer is night and day. Especially when I look at the temperature of gaffers jobs in the division and international options.

I would be keeping tabs on Ange. I also think Howe could get axed maybe even Arteta. The last two I only mention because of ties to Everton. Don't get me wrong I think internationally has a very engaging pool. A list personally that would comprise of Kasper Hjulmand, Kjetil Knutsen, Henrik Rydstrom, Edin Terzic and Frank Haise and Bo Svensson despite them taking new jobs last summer. But all those are tacticians who would be very much helped in having a summer to implement and recruitment specificity.

In the meantime let's draw with 0-0s for 1 point.

 

[Ring master]

Man City P/C 3.45pm today

 

[Deleted member 50501]

This is my sentiment. To start I think we will be safe with Dyche at the helm and I say that as someone who will be excited the day hes gone. But the distinction of hiring a manager for a last gasp survival campaign to one basically abe to build a squad from scratch this summer is night and day. Especially when I look at the temperature of gaffers jobs in the division and international options.

I would be keeping tabs on Ange. I also think Howe could get axed maybe even Arteta. The last two I only mention because of ties to Everton. Don't get me wrong I think internationally has a very engaging pool. A list personally that would comprise of Kasper Hjulmand, Kjetil Knutsen, Henrik Rydstrom, Edin Terzic and Frank Haise and Bo Svensson despite them taking new jobs last summer. But all those are tacticians who would be very much helped in having a summer to implement and recruitment specificity.

In the meantime let's draw with 0-0s for 1 point.

You'd take Ange? Think he's absolutely awful me. That Liverpool game yesterday, you could see Liverpool would trash them from the first 5 minutes, gifting them chance after chance, and then the trashing by Chelsea last year when they were down to 9 men and playing a high line...

There's principals and then there's just idiocy.

 

[Toffeelover]

What pats on the back did he give himself after our two nil, nil draws ?

 

[everton1953]

Hello new owners. This is what I do best.

 

[nonstripdzebra]

You'd take Ange? Think he's absolutely awful me. That Liverpool game yesterday, you could see Liverpool would trash them from the first 5 minutes, gifting them chance after chance, and then the trashing by Chelsea last year when they were down to 9 men and playing a high line...

There's principals and then there's just idiocy.

I would take all those international managers likely before anyone else simply from them being able to build from the ground up and frankly being able to set up a unique project. I look at Thomas Frank and aspire for that stability and frankly lack of noise. But in the hypothetical options from the EPL I'd lean Howe and Arteta prior but I do think Ange is at least shortlist worthy. Listen he needs to get serious about just how open he is leaving his team. Removed of generational attacking talent in Son and Kulusevski the ability to highlight such knack might be empty. But I do think his next job he may be more mature in regards to that. I also think the injuries early have not helped there hot cold campaign.

But like I said I would personally seek some distance from name recognition and frankly EPL experience. I think the international managers I listed would all be interesting hires and could be here for the long haul.

 

[pfim]

I would take all those international managers likely before anyone else simply from them being able to build from the ground up and frankly being able to set up a unique project. I look at Thomas Frank and aspire for that stability and frankly lack of noise. But in the hypothetical options from the EPL I'd lean Howe and Arteta prior but I do think Ange is at least shortlist worthy. Listen he needs to get serious about just how open he is leaving his team. Removed of generational attacking talent in Son and Kulusevski the ability to highlight such knack might be empty. But I do think his next job he may be more mature in regards to that. I also think the injuries early have not helped there hot cold campaign.

But like I said I would personally seek some distance from name recognition and frankly EPL experience. I think the international managers I listed would all be interesting hires and could be here for the long haul.

He won't, that's not what he does. He loses his appeal without that.

 

[Neiler]

There is no great benefit to the owners if we finish 11th or 17th. All that matters to their project and investment is we remain a Premier League club. Given we had very little to spend in recent seasons, they will have budgeted for survival. Anything else is a bonus.

Essentially, there are very low standards at this club - but that's largely a consequence of having very poor owners.

New owners, new competence, new ambtion, new manager.

Strategically this is very true.

 

[Kendal]

Goals count not xG

 

[twoblue]

It is sort of funny how often he gets away with just gambling that the other team won't punish us.

It’s sort of funny that he sets the team up so the other team find it hard to punish us.
Fact is that we have weaker sides than these teams. We have to play to our strengths.

This is my sentiment. To start I think we will be safe with Dyche at the helm and I say that as someone who will be excited the day hes gone. But the distinction of hiring a manager for a last gasp survival campaign to one basically abe to build a squad from scratch this summer is night and day. Especially when I look at the temperature of gaffers jobs in the division and international options.

I would be keeping tabs on Ange. I also think Howe could get axed maybe even Arteta. The last two I only mention because of ties to Everton. Don't get me wrong I think internationally has a very engaging pool. A list personally that would comprise of Kasper Hjulmand, Kjetil Knutsen, Henrik Rydstrom, Edin Terzic and Frank Haise and Bo Svensson despite them taking new jobs last summer. But all those are tacticians who would be very much helped in having a summer to implement and recruitment specificity.

In the meantime let's draw with 0-0s for 1 point.

if ange was managing us now we certainly wouldn’t be celebrating 0-0 victories, but not sure we would be outside the relegation zone.

 

[DanB90]

Goals from set pieces don’t count

Deflected goals don’t count

Goals from rebounds don’t count

Goals from outside the box don’t count

Goals from players who don’t play in a central striking position don’t count

They of course absolutely count when we concede them..obviously

My brother in Christ, what are these goals you speak of?

 

[DanB90]

You'd take Ange? Think he's absolutely awful me. That Liverpool game yesterday, you could see Liverpool would trash them from the first 5 minutes, gifting them chance after chance, and then the trashing by Chelsea last year when they were down to 9 men and playing a high line...

There's principals and then there's just idiocy.

Playing Didgeridooball with this squad would see us firmly rooted to the bottom of the table and no mistake.

Would be a laugh though.

 

[twoblue]

Its a weird take because he's been at two PL clubs, Burnley, who hardly have a right to be hitting the great heights in the PL, and us, who were borrowing money to pay players wages last season. Those kinds of things are hardly conducive to success.

That's a different story now with Friedkin, if they can invest.

Wasting you time trying to explain lifes not black and white to him