2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[Saint Domingo]

You really don't have to factor that in at all though, because we all know what a monumental mess we made of spending money. The fact that we'd spent a load of money on Gbamin, Bolasie, Tosun etc should have meant that we were in a much stronger position to start with yes, but the reality is that it didn't.

Brighton and Brentford are 2 clubs who were able to build from the Championship, they had an actual plan and were recruiting players while in the Championship who they believed would do well once they got promoted. It's the type of thing we didn't do when we could and should have, and in recent years haven't been able to do because we've needed to focus on the short term.

The fact that we messed up our investment years ago is not news, we all know it and it's been done to death - the only bearing what we did then has on what we're doing now is that it completely hamstrung us.

There’s also some short termism at play.

Brighton finished on the same points we did last season. So did Bournemouth. Fulham finished lower. Brentford finished even lower.

It’s nothing against any of the way those clubs have gone about their business or excusing the way we’ve gone about ours but the reality is that a lot of these teams have spent significantly more money than us just to finish in the same ball park recently. They are having a better start than us this season, but again we will see how far apart the teams are at the end and whether the gap equates to the 10s of millions of 100s of millions pounds expenditure difference.

If there was a table for pound per point earned from the time Dyche has arrived it might put the job that has been done in a very different light.

 

[matty1878]

You’ve been Michael Jackson for months mate.

i’m always right

 

[twoblue]

All valid points but you have to take a few things into consideration

I looked at this the other day I think Brighton have a debt of about 40 mil in that time, Bournemouth was about 115mil and Brentford was about 150, while we’ve made about 30mil. The caveat is at the start of that period I’d guess we had the 7th most expensive squad, maybe higher and the 7th highest wage bill.

So you have to factor in that and we’ve been a prem team for years, 5 years ago Brentford had just come up , Brighton couldn’t have been a prem team long. And Forest out the prem for 20yrs had to spend to try and compete and survive, Leeds spent a lot when they came up and eventually went down again, what have Ipswich and Southampton spent probably a 100mil and each both still look like championship teams. A 100mil doesn’t touch the surface for a newly promoted side, unless you have been a yo-yo team kept some of your best players or you have a brilliant manager or some brilliant young players who make the step up

Our squad wasn’t balanced 5 years ago. We saying we needed a striker. We had cut the real quality.

 

[Bigduke1234]

There’s also some short termism at play.

Brighton finished on the same points we did last season. So did Bournemouth. Fulham finished lower. Brentford finished even lower.

It’s nothing against any of the way those clubs have gone about their business or excusing the way we’ve gone about ours but the reality is that a lot of these teams have spent significantly more money than us just to finish in the same ball park recently. They are having a better start than us this season, but again we will see how far apart the teams are at the end and whether the gap equates to the 10s of millions of 100s of millions pounds expenditure difference.

If there was a table for pound per point earned from the time Dyche has arrived it might put the job that has been done in a very different light.

No , it’s turd

 

[Groucho]

I remember Lampard trying to play attacking, expansive football with this bunch. That was scary.

One game at Fulham particularly stands out - we got eviscerated.

You have to have the particular players for it. We don’t currently.

We’ve been there before with Martinez.

 

[carolinablue232]

We have scored a goal in one game since October

 

[Clarky cat]

Hi Sean, Ian and Steve. If one of you is reading this I would like you to know that I’ve had more enjoyable bouts of diarrhoea than watching the cowardly dross you serve up as football. Maybe stop knocking one out to your favourite goal line clearance videos and coach the players in possession and attacking passages of play. Take care

 

[BluePaul86]

i’m always right

If that was the case we'd be in League two now seeing as we got relegated every year.

 

[matty1878]

If that was the case we'd be in League two now seeing as we got relegated every year.

this is a new me tho mate

 

[Cels]

In Dyche We Trust

#believe
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[NathDogg]

Indepen-dyche day draws ever closer.

Yeeeeeehawwwwww!

 

[Lanolin]

We have scored a goal in one game since October

I really wish that was a particularly noteworthy stat for modern day Everton but it’s not unfortunately.

 

[carolinablue232]

I really wish that was a particularly noteworthy stat for modern day Everton but it’s not unfortunately.

Sad but true

 

[twoblue]

You really don't have to factor that in at all though, because we all know what a monumental mess we made of spending money. The fact that we'd spent a load of money on Gbamin, Bolasie, Tosun etc should have meant that we were in a much stronger position to start with yes, but the reality is that it didn't.

Brighton and Brentford are 2 clubs who were able to build from the Championship, they had an actual plan and were recruiting players while in the Championship who they believed would do well once they got promoted. It's the type of thing we didn't do when we could and should have, and in recent years haven't been able to do because we've needed to focus on the short term.

The fact that we messed up our investment years ago is not news, we all know it and it's been done to death - the only bearing what we did then has on what we're doing now is that it completely hamstrung us.

can’t think of anyone we bought apart from rich, digne, iwobe and onana that left for anything.
Bolaise, Schneid, sancho, Davison, sig… all big signings and left for nothing.

We have scored a goal in one game since October

conceded in one game since October…
No match winners in the squad.

 

[carolinablue232]

can’t think of anyone we bought apart from rich, digne, iwobe and onana that left for anything.
Bolaise, Schneid, sancho, Davison, sig… all big signings and left for nothing.

conceded in one game since October…
No match winners in the squad.

Incorrect