Doesn't matter if one of the dinner ladies manages until the end of the season as long as we stay up. From then on it's a different story, and the canteen staff will be fully staffed again.
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Clarky cat
Player Valuation: £35m
You’ll do well to find anybody on here who thinks Doucoure isn’t just an athlete with the footballing ability of Stephen Hawking’s wheelchair. Unfortunately, Sean Dyche loves him and it doesn’t matter how many times he gives the ball away, fails to control the ball or cannot even get his knee over the ball when shooting to keep it down, he’s back in the team next week because he’s good at a bleep test.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
If the new owners have their number 1 target lined up and ready to go and also have funds available to back him in January then I don’t really care whenever they pull the trigger.
If there’s no funds available in January and they can’t get the man they really want yet then paying off Dyche just to get an interim seems pointless. The players will just drop tools knowing the interim will be ok the doors at the rend of the season. Whatever people say about the football you can’t watch that Arsenal game and say the players aren’t working for Dyche.
But he picks doucoure for the 10 role when he’s technically a shocking footballer. He had a purple patch when dyche first came in, but for the last 12 bar the odd game his been horrific, there’s 4 better options in our squad to play as a number 10, and even say Harrison Armstrong at 17 wound offer more. So that’s on the manager, do you think he’s getting the best out of Ndaiye ??
You can’t keep blaming the squad for the manager.
Egil Olsen
Player Valuation: £8m
I may not think he loves him, but he lacks options. Covering space and winning duels is fundamental, and without that you don't win many football matches. Especially when you as a team are inferior in most other parameters.
We had a lot of transition opportunities against Arsenal, due to a lot of turnovers and good defensive play, but we didn't have any players with enough speed to threaten the spaces that Arsenal left behind.
Here, Doucoure is actually one of the few players who has the breakthrough power to do this when he makes runs forward from deeper positions.
perth_blue
Player Valuation: £20m
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You would've taken Gary O Neill over Dyche?
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £50m
Yeah when he runs forward. Then the problem is that little round thing comes into play and it all goes pete tong. If football never had a ball and was just called foot he'd be fine.
Egil Olsen
Player Valuation: £8m
I once coached a team that was far behind our competition in terms of skill. They were rarely good at creating an imbalance for the opponent with the ball, and more often than not they lost the ball, and caused themselves a great imbalance in defence.
So we had to find a way to provoke an imbalance in the opposition when we didn't have the ball, and at the same time play at a much lower risk when we had the ball - while making a plan to win the second and third balls.
We built a lot of our game around when the opposition had the ball and we created specific pressing traps. We also had no players who excelled in 1v1 situations, and had enough speed to exploit large spaces. We therefore knew that if we were going to create something we had to push hard, but we always let the opposition become expansive before we pressed.
This is enormously physically demanding, and to perform this we needed players with great physical capacity. The structure was 4-2-3-1, and we faced the choice of either using a technically good player versus a player with great physical capacity in the 10 role.
Because we depended on having pressure on the ball, and movements into space when we won the ball to exploit the imbalance, we went for the player who had the greatest physical capacity. The technical player was far better in 4 on 4 in training, but far less effective in matches.
So even though he was perhaps a better player with the ball, he dragged the team down and didn't fit into the style of play. Of course, we could have said that we would continue to play Russell Martin football regardless of the results, but the team thought it was a lot more fun to win games than to lose.
Unfortunately, perhaps a better player was sacrificed for the whole, but that is the task of a manager. How can you get the most out of this group?
So I'm not saying Dyche necessarily does this, but you always have reasons for choosing the way you do.
In many ways this is the entire Dyche argument in a nutshell. It's about whether playing better football would yield better results or not. We could undoubtedly play better football if we set up to do it, but I think it's questionable whether we would actually be any better off doing that because I think there are lots of fundamental issues with the squad that the current 'style' of play negates to some extent, whereas a more expansive style may exacerbate them. It's obviously just opinion and guesswork, maybe I'm wrong and some of the players would cope a lot better than I think they would, but a lot of people just don't seem to consider the possibility in reverse at all.
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £50m
Im not sure about that. I watch teams in this division and almost every single one of them i think to myself doucoure wouldnt get a game as he'd collapse and break down every decent attacking move as 99% of the time he cant trap a ball or weight a pass. If you've got that weak link in a chain replace it. He got relegated with watford and in 4 of his 5 years here we've been fighting above the trap door. Its not all down to him but when you struggle to do the basics you're pretty much tailor made for a Sean Dyche side as long as you seem to run hard. The clubs mentality and recruitment needs a complete overhaul. We've morphed into Burnley. Dyche grinning like a chesire cat at the weekend. We never had a single effort at goal. Take the point as we're desperate. Dont be proud that we offer nothing other than parking the bus.
Clarky cat
Player Valuation: £35m
He only gets a game for a team and manager who don’t want the football which in turn contributes to that team not being able to keep the ball or play expansively. It’s beyond embarrassing how far standards have fallen at Everton, it’s even more embarrassing how some have bought in to it.
twoblue
Player Valuation: £35m
Dacoure is legs. Picking up scraps and second balls higher up the pitch. Rather than creativity.
So basically you and @Egil Olsen are saying that if you have no
Money to buy top players you can only play like dyche to survive in the prem,
There’s no other way to do it. And if we give dyche 250mil this summer you will see an attacking team on the front foot trying to score goals and win football matches.
I actually think differently and if you gave dyche the Brighton or Bournemouth job he would have them playing like us in weeks.
Tommy Chong
Player Valuation: £70m
130k a week for an over-glorified athlete... Jesus wept.
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