Paris Olympics 2024

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Shambolically, the Skiffs boat race was cancelled by the Olympic organisers due to a change in weather conditions. Note how unprofessional sailors carrying 60+ people in a rubber boat can leave French waters regardless of the weather and the French don't stop them!
 
longers said:
That boxer isn’t actually trans though, she was born a woman and identified as a woman from birth according to teh always reliable internets

Apparently it’s the same deal as Caster Semenya.

Also she has a 9-5 record so has seemingly been beaten by women several times.
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Exactly, they're probably doping but there ain't many transgender ( who knows the right terms) people bouncing around rural Algeria and especially not risking exposure by competing in public sports.
 

longers said:
That boxer isn’t actually trans though, she was born a woman and identified as a woman from birth according to teh always reliable internets

Apparently it’s the same deal as Caster Semenya.

Also she has a 9-5 record so has seemingly been beaten by women several times.
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Think its more down to failing tests before jumping into the trans debate and still being allowed to compete.

Should be seen the same as taking PEDs if you fail testosterone and gender eligibility tests (which they both have)
 
longers said:
That boxer isn’t actually trans though, she was born a woman and identified as a woman from birth according to teh always reliable internets

Apparently it’s the same deal as Caster Semenya.

Also she has a 9-5 record so has seemingly been beaten by women several times.
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Yep she isn’t transgender, she’s XY46. So basically born “both” male and female.

She may well have identified as a woman from birth, but genetically she’s had a lot of the biological benefits as males in her hormonal development. That’s why just looking at her in the ring she looks like a “man” in terms of size, muscle mass, speed, she even has more of a traditional male looking stance and is much more snappy in the punches than what you’d expect from a female.

The reason she had lost before to biological women is because she isn’t an elite skilled boxer, so on occasions she’s been beaten, but she does have more similar testosterone levels to a male, which she has used to her advantage.

May sound hard to hear for some (and it’s obviously harsh on her), but I personally think with escalated testosterone levels she shouldn’t be allowed to compete in a women’s sport where the aim of the game is to literally try and render your opponent unconscious. Many governing bodies across many sports agree with this, but for the Olympics it’s not the case.
 

ArtetaMoney said:
www.telegraph.co.uk

Olympics women's boxing: Italian abandons fight with Imane Khelif, who failed gender test

In one of the most shaming episodes in Olympic history, Italy’s Angela Carini was forced after only 46 seconds to abandon a fight against an Algerian boxer who had failed two sex tests, claiming she had been hit so hard by Imane Khelif that she feared for her life.
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk

Surprised this story hasn’t gotten a bit more coverage, I know there are 2 transgender fighters that have been cleared to fight despite previously being banned. Interesting to see the reception they get if they win gold.
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They’re not transgender, apparently - but have very high testosterone levels.
 
Lee Smith said:
Yep she isn’t transgender, she’s XY46. So basically born “both” male and female.

She may well have identified as a woman from birth, but genetically she’s had a lot of the biological benefits as males in her hormonal development. That’s why just looking at her in the ring she looks like a “man” in terms of size, muscle mass, speed, she even has more of a traditional male looking stance and is much more snappy in the punches than what you’d expect from a female.

The reason she had lost before to biological women is because she isn’t an elite skilled boxer, so on occasions she’s been beaten, but she does have more similar testosterone levels to a male, which she has used to her advantage.

May sound hard to hear for some (and it’s obviously harsh on her), but I personally think with escalated testosterone levels she shouldn’t be allowed to compete in a women’s sport where the aim of the game is to literally try and render your opponent unconscious. Many governing bodies across many sports agree with this, but for the Olympics it’s not the case.
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Kellie Harrington beat her 5-0 at the last Olympics. Don't think her elevated testosterone helps her much. The Italian girl isn't the first fighter to have her nose broken in a fight.

Much ado about nothing and an opportunity for the likes of J K Rowlings to stick the knife in.
 
longers said:
That boxer isn’t actually trans though, she was born a woman and identified as a woman from birth according to teh always reliable internets

Apparently it’s the same deal as Caster Semenya.

Also she has a 9-5 record so has seemingly been beaten by women several times.
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Born male, has the same DSD which Caster Semenya has - 5α-Reductase 2 deficiency (5-ARD) which only affects biological males, hence failing a gender/testosterone test with the IOC.

Babies born with such DSD's are generally bought up as female due to ambiguous genitalia - However they're in no way 'female'.
 
dublinbluenose said:
Kellie Harrington beat her 5-0 at the last Olympics. Don't think her elevated testosterone helps her much. The Italian girl isn't the first fighter to have her nose broken in a fight.

Much ado about nothing and an opportunity for the likes of J K Rowlings to stick the knife in.
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Amy broadhurst too, (didn't qualify) doesn't look as bulky here though.
 

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