A message for the new lads

[GrandOldTeam]

The truth is that there is room for praise and criticism, support and analysis and to suggest that TW only offers the negative is just plain wrong. I don't see anyone branding Kipper as negative even though their forum is packed full of moaners on any given day.

Comparing TW to Bluekippers forums? Not a good idea mate

TW is sound (well, apart from Michael and one or two whoppers in the mailbag).

But I do think TW has an unfair 'harsh' tag.

 

[Ingwe]

Comparing TW to Bluekippers forums? Not a good idea mate

I realise we're talking chalk and cheese in terms of character and audience but I'm referring specifically to the tone vis-a-vis criticism, moaning and negativity.

 

[monty]

I realise we're talking chalk and cheese in terms of character and audience but I'm referring specifically to the tone vis-a-vis criticism, moaning and negativity.

At this moment in time our club could use more solidarity from all sources, TW included. I happen to disagree with Dylan because a high percentage visit TW these days for a laugh, check out the Blueroom, Kipper and 606. I no longer bother as I find a high proportion of your articles offensive and some comments made to honest positive blues by your editorial staff are a disgrace.
The turth is Lyndon you must be aware, if not you are not doing your job

 

[Dylan]

Clearly the words of someone who doesn't visit the site on a regular basis. Ken Buckley is a moaner? Rob Fox was a moaner? Just two examples of contributors from both now and a while back who do not fit your inaccurate characterisation of ToffeeWeb.

And if "supporters are sick and tired of it" no one would bother turning up at the site, would they?

The truth is that there is room for praise and criticism, support and analysis and to suggest that TW only offers the negative is just plain wrong. I don't see anyone branding Kipper as negative even though their forum is packed full of moaners on any given day. Likewise, WSAG has its own share of contributors who dare to criticise and NSNO, well I know what some on here think of NSNO...

I remember Rob Fox well, and I always enjoyed his articles, but he would always get critical responses in the mailbag. He was the beacon of hope in the ocean that you guys created. Just out of curiosity, when was the last time Rob Fox posted with you guys? It has been a while has it not?

I am all for having critical views BUT when you guys only seem to publish the critical stuff, that is what irks me. You only have to look at one of our former members, Nick Toye. He constantly contributed to your mailbag to rebut other replies, but his would mysteriously disappear. It is crap like that.

And Monty, do you agree with me or disagree. As you say you disagree, but then go on with what sounds like you are agreeing with me.

 

[linglong]

Very Keegan esque. hahahahaha

Got a chuckle from me

 

[Ingwe]

Just out of curiosity, when was the last time Rob Fox posted with you guys? It has been a while has it not?

Yes, it has. He hasn't submitted any articles for a long time now but does occasionally pop up with a comment in the MailBag or on an article. He certainly isn't being discouraged by us -- we always welcomed his submissions.

I am all for having critical views BUT when you guys only seem to publish the critical stuff, that is what irks me.

But we don't, Dylan, that's the point. In terms of articles and MailBag items, we publish almost everything, positive, negative, you name it, either as a standalone submission or re-assigned as a comment on an existing thread on a similar subject. Take a look at the site right now and tell me what percentage of submissions are critical or negative. Even during the height of the stadium bickering, we published stuff from all sides of the debate even when there were times when that ran against my personal beliefs on the issue.

This idea that we only publish stuff we agree with or because it's critical is just not true, 99.9% of the time. I will admit that there have been a couple of occasions where we got it wrong and haven't been consistent, perhaps withheld a post because we didn't want tensions to flare up over an inflammatory topic (Kirkby, for example) but came off looking like we were suppressing a viewpoint that ran contrary to our beliefs. We're human.

You only have to look at one of our former members, Nick Toye. He constantly contributed to your mailbag to rebut other replies, but his would mysteriously disappear. It is crap like that.

The only replies of his that "mysteriously disappeared" were removed by Michael because they were aimed specifically at fellow posters or us rather than countering stuff he didn't agree with by discussing the issue at hand. Michael tries to keep the discussions on topic rather than straying into focusing on personalities or bitching about people bitching. Again, go and look at the site, a few of his recent comments are there because they focused on Everton.

 

[monty]

I remember Rob Fox well, and I always enjoyed his articles, but he would always get critical responses in the mailbag. He was the beacon of hope in the ocean that you guys created. Just out of curiosity, when was the last time Rob Fox posted with you guys? It has been a while has it not?

I am all for having critical views BUT when you guys only seem to publish the critical stuff, that is what irks me. You only have to look at one of our former members, Nick Toye. He constantly contributed to your mailbag to rebut other replies, but his would mysteriously disappear. It is crap like that.

And Monty, do you agree with me or disagree. As you say you disagree, but then go on with what sounds like you are agreeing with me.

In truth I agree, I just felt you w3ere being too nice to someone who comes on here telling us lot to carry on, arrogance itself.

I notice that Lyndon did the TW thing by ignoring an honest assessment, point proven I think

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Sir, sir, thread hijackers sir. *points to new thread*

 

[Chris]

...bit of a bummer really..

You and Chico will get along fabulously.

 

[Chris]

I can honestly say I have not read the TW main site in over a year. It just used to piss me off too much. It wasn't all bad mind, but I do feel better for not having read it all this time. I no longer feel the need to swear out loud whilst looking at a computer screen.

 

[evertonianstu]

Maybe different with the regular writers on the main forum and their columns but ill be surprised if this forum is tagged as being harsh or to critical. Since ive been here, there has been a noticeable difference between this and kipper. Much more relaxed and even positive here.

 

[bly]

Maybe different with the regular writers on the main forum and their columns but ill be surprised if this forum is tagged as being harsh or to critical. Since ive been here, there has been a noticeable difference between this and kipper. Much more relaxed and even positive here.

I see Kipper is back now Stu, but for some reason, i am just not that arsed.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

You can't leave now anyway. The door's locked and Monty has swallowed the key.

 

[evertonianstu]

I see Kipper is back now Stu, but for some reason, i am just not that arsed.

Nah, im settled here now. Havent missed Kipper at all

 

[bly]

I want me fiver donation back lol