Points on the board… that is the managers job.
If his hoofball style was effective it would be accepted. It’s not and we have been the better team once this season. Wolves and Sheffield were both good value for their points.
Yeah, and by expectation should have been relegated a whole lot more - not qualified for Europe is what I’m saying.
I’d love the club to be in a position where we don’t have to rely on the likes of Dyche and we have a team that can play slick creative football and sign quality players. But unfortunately we’re just not :/
The first bit is inevitable. The second doesn’t seem so far fetched either.
Osamabindiesel
Player Valuation: £60m
All I can say is he has to have a drastic turnaround. It’s possible, it’s unlikely, but he won’t last if we keep gifting points, goals and automobiles.
For a manager so defined by being defensively minded , our defensive structure has been lax and very chaotic. Yes the players are flawed but dyche worked with worse players and at least made them solid. We're committing basic missteps like not closing players down to avert a precise cross, and I have no notion if the defensive strategy in the box is zonal or man to man marking as its so improperly coordinated. Even mediocre players can be drilled to implement a more rigid defense. Also he has three midfielders and we barely assert any control in the center of the pitch and we leave gaps between the defense and the midfielders. For a highly experienced manager this is inexcusable and those facets are supposed to be his forte
HalfTimeSayers
Player Valuation: £25m
This bothers me. What hoofball? We’ve played most of the last 12 months with Maupay and Gray up front. The style is awful. There isn’t one. But if we had got the stereotypical 442 hoofball Dyche we were all worried about, provided we had 2 sluggers to stick up front, we would probably have been better off in terms of points per game. We got a slight variation on Lampards shape because our CMs have never played in a 2, he said himself that this week. Hoofball to me implies solid at the back and just pound it forward. We have been anything but solid and almost every goal has been because we had an exposed defence either on transition (all the sodding time), overcommitting (Patterson and Garner just emptying our right side), or watching midfielders just walk into our box (Gana and Onana every minute of every game since the start of last season).
But, whatever weird anti style he has tried to input over summer, it’s created far far far more genuine on the ground chances and even nailed on sitters than we’ve had for years. Could easily argue his “style” has led to shedloads of chances in the box, not just headers from deep free kicks launched into the box and from corners. But it’s genuinely not his fault Patterson (who he didn’t recruit) can’t side foot into an empty net, or Doucoure (who he didn’t recruit) hasn’t the awareness to roll the ball 3 feet to his right for a tap in instead of shooting at a keeper that is already on top of him
Etc etc.
I can’t defend him. I’d sack him if we lose the next 2. I was disappointed we only limped over the line last year as that squad was better than he extracted (still crap but we should have been safe earlier). He annoys the hell out of me in interviews, and whilst the BBC bloke asks pathetic questions and sounds half asleep, Dyche’s contempt for him needs reigning in, it’s unprofessional; just humour him.
But if we are going to criticise him, let’s pick on the multitude of errors he makes and not just criticise the stereotype he hasn’t even implemented.
Can we make him an offer he can't refuse?.........free all you can get scalp lotion from pep's private collection
HowardsWay
Player Valuation: £6m
Dyche = Poor man's Pulis. Basically stack the team with big tall strong players and hope to out muscle the opposition. Sadly, the Prem. has moved well beyond those days. Dyche is fine for us at the moment. But don't expect miraces because a) we have a really crap squad b) we have even worse owners c) we've been dicing with relegation for two + seasons d) all of the above.
Hinchcliffe's Corner
Player Valuation: £35m
So you're saying that Dyche is a good manager because he should have got relegated more but didn't?
Martin Alvito
Player Valuation: £50m
He has to do something about the acres of space we're leaving opposing players in and around the box. A better team than Sheffield shells us. We saw that away to Villa. It took a minor miracle from Pickford to rescue a point today.
We won't stay up playing for 3-2 and 4-3 slugfest wins. We just don't have the firepower. Conceding clean looks at the top of the 18 yard box will relegate us. The attack may sort itself out now that we have some pieces, and getting healthy up top will help, but we have to sort out the problems in our own third.
Short answer - Yes. His teams were favourites for relegation most if not every season.So you're saying that Dyche is a good manager because he should have got relegated more but didn't?
I can’t judge him on league titles or champions leagues because he’s managed sides that could not achieve those things. He achieved more than he should have right? There are numerous barometers of success.
