The Ashes 2023

Kev The Rat · June 30, 2023

Cool_Blue said:
We’ve got to dismiss them for 200 max or it’s 0-2

its 0-2 then

ToffeeTim · June 30, 2023

England have weirdly played quite a lot of good cricket in this series. But also far too much abysmal cricket for test level.

They need something right now or the game will be gone, and at 2 nil it's all over before the series really began

blueconverse · June 30, 2023

First ashes I've ever watched and starting to get it now but my most important observation is that Warner has once punchable face

neil999 · June 30, 2023

Well at least warner the wally is out

maccavennie · June 30, 2023

Another crap session.

Basically 172-1

Daveysgingerlovechild · June 30, 2023

Barring an England sized batting collapse this is probably gone.

If the Aussies demonstrate patience and discipline they'll be home and dry. Take note Ben Stokes, take note.

Milk · June 30, 2023

Even before the first ball had been bowled, you could see Englands side was unbalanced… and paying for it bigly.

Strauss on commentary is right. If Wood couldn’t play for 5 days, wtf is he doing in the squad

Bohemian Toffee · June 30, 2023

maccavennie said:
Another crap session.

Basically 172-1

Nasser Hussain beat me to it, the Australians have had the tougher batting conditions too.

Kev The Rat · June 30, 2023

Bohemian Toffee said:
Nasser Hussain beat me to it, the Australians have had the tougher batting conditions too.

100%

But they have and will continue to dig in, which is something we have no idea about

steven · June 30, 2023

maccavennie said:
Another crap session.

Basically 172-1

172-2...with lyon out...but that's scraping the barrel.

ToffeeTim · June 30, 2023

When England have been on top, they have played recklessly, lacked patience and made lots of poor individual errors. They've tried to speed the game to a earlier conclusion rather than assert their dominance.

When Australia are on top, they fight even harder to stay there, and they don't let you back into the game. They accept there will be times it will be difficult but take a longer term approach.

I think unfortunately the proof is in the pudding. You can't beat an extremely good side like Australia by taking lots of risks and not looking to bat time. There has to be more pragmatism from England moving forward if they are to avoid a series hammering.

The bowlers are getting more and more tired because the side rarely bat beyond the second new ball. It's not sustainable with older bowlers.

ToffeeTim · June 30, 2023

The preparation for the series wasn't great either. Stokes hadn't even had an innings in red ball cricket, and Brook had faced about 10 balls. Some of the bowlers were coming straight off injuries too.

Cool_Blue · June 30, 2023

ToffeeTim said:
When England have been on top, they have played recklessly, lacked patience and made lots of poor individual errors. They've tried to speed the game to a earlier conclusion rather than assert their dominance.

When Australia are on top, they fight even harder to stay there, and they don't let you back into the game. They accept there will be times it will be difficult but take a longer term approach.

I think unfortunately the proof is in the pudding. You can't beat the World Champions by taking lots of risks and not looking to bat time. There has to be more pragmatism from England moving forward if they are to avoid a series hammering.

The bowlers are getting more and more tired because the side rarely bat beyond the second new ball. It's not sustainable with older bowlers.

Adjusted that slightly for you

maccavennie · June 30, 2023

Bairstow seems incapable of offering an opinion on when to review.

Broad absolutely fuming.

Not happening now for Anderson and Stokes needs to freshen things up here.