2022/23 Sean Dyche

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For all those saying it’s not pretty, world class players make pretty football, not tactics and formations. No coaching in the world can get Doucoure or Gueye to play the passing movements that Silva De Bruyne Aguero could do.

For the majority of teams outside the top 6 if you try and play like a top 6 team without that level of players you’ll just get cut to pieces as Lampard found out and as Rodgers is now seeing.

Even Liverpool struggled when the onus was on them to make the play in midfield, they’re far more effective in transition on the counter tearing teams a new one. Do prime Mane Salah Firmino do it better than McNeill Maupay Iwobi do, of course. Liverpool looked pretty crap when Klopp had Benteke Sturridge Lallana Ings trying it.

We honestly need to put aside this hipster nonsense about football style. We’re just too poor a team at the moment to be worried about it. Every time we make a step forward though in improving defence, improving transitions, improving set pieces, there’s fans who just want to paint these things as primitive football rather than the bed rock of successful teams which they are.

City and Liverpool score loads of set pieces yet you don’t ever hear them mentioned whereas when we do it there’s fans quick to point out how many of our goals are set pieces because Dyche manages us. It’s an absolute load of nonsense.

If we were just aimlessly lobbing long balls forward for Simms to flick on then the detractors might have a point but look at the chances we’ve created under Dyche. Calvert Lewin and Docuoure had three chances between them in the first half against Arsenal all from pull backs and crosses after getting behind their defence. The Davies header v Liverpool, Coleman and Doucoure chances v Leeds, the McNeill goal yesterday. They’re all open play goal chances from passing combinations without a long ball in sight.

It’s just a complete myth pedalled by the media about Dyche football that stupid hipster Everton fans are all too happy to lap up.

We played some absolutely turgid stuff under Martinez Koeman Silva Frank and Carlo, we played some decent stuff under Allardyce and Dyche. The opposite is true as well, there was some decent footy under all those other managers as well and Allardyce did serve up a lot of rubbish.

It doesn’t make any difference whatsoever, none of those styles improved Everton at all in the short or long term. We need an effective manager who can grow consistency, recruit well, improve players and get us moving up the table. All this style discussion is absolute nonsense.
 
I'd expect that to settle a touch - early days and a squad which needs a reworking. The forward line needs a transfer window for a solution unfortunately. Dominic Calvert-Lewin looks a good fit for Dyche but injury proneness. There is a Dyche fit mantra, he won't play anyone until he is certain they can work for the team.

As expected, Dyche has been a breath of fresh air thus far.
 

xG is bollocks. Only the scoreline matters. See how proud you are with 90% possession and 25 shots on goal when you lose 1-0.

Sean Dyche will be judged on points, exactly the same as Lampard who was our second worst manager of all time. FACT.

Only the scoreline matters absolutely but xg is a good indicator of performance and often underline aspects of the game.
 
Only the scoreline matters absolutely but xg is a good indicator of performance and often underline aspects of the game.
Still all very arbitrary though. Ten different sports analystics firms with ten different algorithms could give you ten different answers to what the "expected whatevers" are supposed to be. A 2-0 win being deemed "underperformance" or a 1-0 win being called "overperformance" just because some random calculation says so. Nah. Not for me, Clive.
 
For all those saying it’s not pretty, world class players make pretty football, not tactics and formations. No coaching in the world can get Doucoure or Gueye to play the passing movements that Silva De Bruyne Aguero could do.

For the majority of teams outside the top 6 if you try and play like a top 6 team without that level of players you’ll just get cut to pieces as Lampard found out and as Rodgers is now seeing.

Even Liverpool struggled when the onus was on them to make the play in midfield, they’re far more effective in transition on the counter tearing teams a new one. Do prime Mane Salah Firmino do it better than McNeill Maupay Iwobi do, of course. Liverpool looked pretty crap when Klopp had Benteke Sturridge Lallana Ings trying it.

We honestly need to put aside this hipster nonsense about football style. We’re just too poor a team at the moment to be worried about it. Every time we make a step forward though in improving defence, improving transitions, improving set pieces, there’s fans who just want to paint these things as primitive football rather than the bed rock of successful teams which they are.

City and Liverpool score loads of set pieces yet you don’t ever hear them mentioned whereas when we do it there’s fans quick to point out how many of our goals are set pieces because Dyche manages us. It’s an absolute load of nonsense.

If we were just aimlessly lobbing long balls forward for Simms to flick on then the detractors might have a point but look at the chances we’ve created under Dyche. Calvert Lewin and Docuoure had three chances between them in the first half against Arsenal all from pull backs and crosses after getting behind their defence. The Davies header v Liverpool, Coleman and Doucoure chances v Leeds, the McNeill goal yesterday. They’re all open play goal chances from passing combinations without a long ball in sight.

It’s just a complete myth pedalled by the media about Dyche football that stupid hipster Everton fans are all too happy to lap up.

We played some absolutely turgid stuff under Martinez Koeman Silva Frank and Carlo, we played some decent stuff under Allardyce and Dyche. The opposite is true as well, there was some decent footy under all those other managers as well and Allardyce did serve up a lot of rubbish.

It doesn’t make any difference whatsoever, none of those styles improved Everton at all in the short or long term. We need an effective manager who can grow consistency, recruit well, improve players and get us moving up the table. All this style discussion is absolute nonsense.

Couldn’t care less about how stylish the football is

Work hard and play to win

That’s all I ask of an Everton side
 

The xG stats were always poor with Dyche at Burnley. I listen to a lot of podcasts and it was mentioned all the time. He got us into Europe with low xG. If he can eventually get a front pairing then you will be more entertaining on the eye. It is "mixed" football but there is a pace and aggression to it. When matched with honesty of effort and desire, what's not to like?

The opposition's XG tended to be fairly high as well. Having watched loads of Dyche football, if your units are set then most times the opposition will have to do something spectacular or for there to be an error for you to concede. For many seasons, our concessions were counter attacks mainly. Our midfield lacked pace. The first at Liverpool is a prime example, I'd seen that goal quite a lot at Burnley. The defensive system concedes shots but there are bodies in the way in key areas and then the goalkeeper is left with the easier shots to deal with. The CBs are key to that. It doesn't surprise me that he has gone with Keano and Tarky. They are schooled in it. For this season, first goal is everything.

I'd expect him to be more progressive next season. I'd be disappointed if he couldn't adapt to the bigger club.
As a Burnley fan - this is spot on.

I really hope Dyche has some success with you guys and you back him.

Some of the vitriol aimed at him (and us to a lesser extent) such as ‘brexit ball’ ‘dinosaur Dyche’ etc is so unimaginative and boring.

If he was Portuguese after our 7th placed finish he would have being touted as the next Mourinho; not to mention as well when we have had more technical players at their best - Steven Defour for example we played some really good stuff.
 
For all those saying it’s not pretty, world class players make pretty football, not tactics and formations. No coaching in the world can get Doucoure or Gueye to play the passing movements that Silva De Bruyne Aguero could do.

For the majority of teams outside the top 6 if you try and play like a top 6 team without that level of players you’ll just get cut to pieces as Lampard found out and as Rodgers is now seeing.

Even Liverpool struggled when the onus was on them to make the play in midfield, they’re far more effective in transition on the counter tearing teams a new one. Do prime Mane Salah Firmino do it better than McNeill Maupay Iwobi do, of course. Liverpool looked pretty crap when Klopp had Benteke Sturridge Lallana Ings trying it.

We honestly need to put aside this hipster nonsense about football style. We’re just too poor a team at the moment to be worried about it. Every time we make a step forward though in improving defence, improving transitions, improving set pieces, there’s fans who just want to paint these things as primitive football rather than the bed rock of successful teams which they are.

City and Liverpool score loads of set pieces yet you don’t ever hear them mentioned whereas when we do it there’s fans quick to point out how many of our goals are set pieces because Dyche manages us. It’s an absolute load of nonsense.

If we were just aimlessly lobbing long balls forward for Simms to flick on then the detractors might have a point but look at the chances we’ve created under Dyche. Calvert Lewin and Docuoure had three chances between them in the first half against Arsenal all from pull backs and crosses after getting behind their defence. The Davies header v Liverpool, Coleman and Doucoure chances v Leeds, the McNeill goal yesterday. They’re all open play goal chances from passing combinations without a long ball in sight.

It’s just a complete myth pedalled by the media about Dyche football that stupid hipster Everton fans are all too happy to lap up.

We played some absolutely turgid stuff under Martinez Koeman Silva Frank and Carlo, we played some decent stuff under Allardyce and Dyche. The opposite is true as well, there was some decent footy under all those other managers as well and Allardyce did serve up a lot of rubbish.

It doesn’t make any difference whatsoever, none of those styles improved Everton at all in the short or long term. We need an effective manager who can grow consistency, recruit well, improve players and get us moving up the table. All this style discussion is absolute nonsense.
[Poor language removed] with your rational thinking.
 

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