Relegation 2022/23

davek · February 28, 2023

PL form table since Dyche took charge...

	Last 4 Matches	P	W	D	L	F	A	+/-	Pts
1	Manchester City	W 3-1 v ASTO..	W 3-1 v ARSE..	D 1-1 v NOTT..	W 4-1 v AFC..	4	3	1	0	11	4	+7	10
2	Manchester United	W 2-1 v CRYS..	D 2-2 v LEED..	W 2-0 v LEED..	W 3-0 v LEIC..	4	3	1	0	9	3	+6	10
3	Tottenham Hotspur	W 1-0 v MANC..	L 4-1 v LEIC..	W 2-0 v WEST..	W 2-0 v CHEL..	4	3	0	1	6	4	+2	9
4	Fulham	D 0-0 v CHEL..	W 2-0 v NOTT..	W 1-0 v BRIG..	D 1-1 v WOLV..	4	2	2	0	4	1	+3	8
5	Wolverhampton Wanderers	W 3-0 v LIVE..	W 2-1 v SOUT..	L 1-0 v AFC..	D 1-1 v FULH..	4	2	1	1	6	3	+3	7
6	Arsenal	D 1-1 v BREN..	L 3-1 v MANC..	W 4-2 v ASTO..	W 1-0 v LEIC..	4	2	1	1	7	6	+1	7
7	Liverpool	L 3-0 v WOLV..	W 2-0 v EVER..	W 2-0 v NEWC..	D 0-0 v CRYS..	4	2	1	1	4	3	+1	7
8	Brentford	D 0-0 v LEED..	W 3-0 v SOUT..	D 1-1 v ARSE..	D 1-1 v CRYS..	4	1	3	0	5	2	+3	6
9	Leicester City	W 4-2 v ASTO..	W 4-1 v TOTT..	L 3-0 v MANC..	L 1-0 v ARSE..	4	2	0	2	8	7	+1	6
10	Everton	W 1-0 v ARSE..	L 2-0 v LIVE..	W 1-0 v LEED..	L 2-0 v ASTO..	4	2	0	2	2	4	-2	6
11	West Ham United	D 1-1 v NEWC..	D 1-1 v CHEL..	L 2-0 v TOTT..	W 4-0 v NOTT..	4	1	2	1	6	4	+2	5
12	Brighton & Hove Albion	D 2-2 v LEIC..	W 1-0 v AFC..	D 1-1 v CRYS..	L 1-0 v FULH..	4	1	2	1	4	4	0	5
13	Leeds United	D 2-2 v MANC..	L 2-0 v MANC..	L 1-0 v EVER..	W 1-0 v SOUT..	4	1	1	2	3	5	-2	4
14	AFC Bournemouth	L 1-0 v BRIG..	D 1-1 v NEWC..	W 1-0 v WOLV..	L 4-1 v MANC..	4	1	1	2	3	6	-3	4
15	Nottingham Forest	W 1-0 v LEED..	L 2-0 v FULH..	D 1-1 v MANC..	L 4-0 v WEST..	4	1	1	2	2	7	-5	4
16	Crystal Palace	L 2-1 v MANC..	D 1-1 v BRIG..	D 1-1 v BREN..	D 0-0 v LIVE..	4	0	3	1	3	4	-1	3
17	Newcastle United	D 0-0 v CRYS..	D 1-1 v WEST..	D 1-1 v AFC..	L 2-0 v LIVE..	4	0	3	1	2	4	-2	3
18	Aston Villa	L 4-2 v LEIC..	L 3-1 v MANC..	L 4-2 v ARSE..	W 2-0 v EVER..	4	1	0	3	7	11	-4	3
19	Southampton	L 3-0 v BREN..	L 2-1 v WOLV..	W 1-0 v CHEL..	L 1-0 v LEED..	4	1	0	3	2	6	-4	3
20	Chelsea	D 0-0 v FULH..	D 1-1 v WEST..	L 1-0 v SOUT..	L 2-0 v TOTT..	4	0	2	2	1	4	-3	2

Pittsburgh Footy · February 28, 2023

davek said:
PL form table since Dyche took charge...

Last 4 Matches P W D L F A +/- Pts

1 Manchester City W 3-1 v ASTO.. W 3-1 v ARSE.. D 1-1 v NOTT.. W 4-1 v AFC.. 4 3 1 0 11 4 +7 10

2 Manchester United W 2-1 v CRYS.. D 2-2 v LEED.. W 2-0 v LEED.. W 3-0 v LEIC.. 4 3 1 0 9 3 +6 10

3 Tottenham Hotspur W 1-0 v MANC.. L 4-1 v LEIC.. W 2-0 v WEST.. W 2-0 v CHEL.. 4 3 0 1 6 4 +2 9

4 Fulham D 0-0 v CHEL.. W 2-0 v NOTT.. W 1-0 v BRIG.. D 1-1 v WOLV.. 4 2 2 0 4 1 +3 8

5 Wolverhampton Wanderers W 3-0 v LIVE.. W 2-1 v SOUT.. L 1-0 v AFC.. D 1-1 v FULH.. 4 2 1 1 6 3 +3 7

6 Arsenal D 1-1 v BREN.. L 3-1 v MANC.. W 4-2 v ASTO.. W 1-0 v LEIC.. 4 2 1 1 7 6 +1 7

7 Liverpool L 3-0 v WOLV.. W 2-0 v EVER.. W 2-0 v NEWC.. D 0-0 v CRYS.. 4 2 1 1 4 3 +1 7

8 Brentford D 0-0 v LEED.. W 3-0 v SOUT.. D 1-1 v ARSE.. D 1-1 v CRYS.. 4 1 3 0 5 2 +3 6

9 Leicester City W 4-2 v ASTO.. W 4-1 v TOTT.. L 3-0 v MANC.. L 1-0 v ARSE.. 4 2 0 2 8 7 +1 6

10 Everton W 1-0 v ARSE.. L 2-0 v LIVE.. W 1-0 v LEED.. L 2-0 v ASTO.. 4 2 0 2 2 4 -2 6

11 West Ham United D 1-1 v NEWC.. D 1-1 v CHEL.. L 2-0 v TOTT.. W 4-0 v NOTT.. 4 1 2 1 6 4 +2 5

12 Brighton & Hove Albion D 2-2 v LEIC.. W 1-0 v AFC.. D 1-1 v CRYS.. L 1-0 v FULH.. 4 1 2 1 4 4 0 5

13 Leeds United D 2-2 v MANC.. L 2-0 v MANC.. L 1-0 v EVER.. W 1-0 v SOUT.. 4 1 1 2 3 5 -2 4

14 AFC Bournemouth L 1-0 v BRIG.. D 1-1 v NEWC.. W 1-0 v WOLV.. L 4-1 v MANC.. 4 1 1 2 3 6 -3 4

15 Nottingham Forest W 1-0 v LEED.. L 2-0 v FULH.. D 1-1 v MANC.. L 4-0 v WEST.. 4 1 1 2 2 7 -5 4

16 Crystal Palace L 2-1 v MANC.. D 1-1 v BRIG.. D 1-1 v BREN.. D 0-0 v LIVE.. 4 0 3 1 3 4 -1 3

17 Newcastle United D 0-0 v CRYS.. D 1-1 v WEST.. D 1-1 v AFC.. L 2-0 v LIVE.. 4 0 3 1 2 4 -2 3

18 Aston Villa L 4-2 v LEIC.. L 3-1 v MANC.. L 4-2 v ARSE.. W 2-0 v EVER.. 4 1 0 3 7 11 -4 3

19 Southampton L 3-0 v BREN.. L 2-1 v WOLV.. W 1-0 v CHEL.. L 1-0 v LEED.. 4 1 0 3 2 6 -4 3

20 Chelsea D 0-0 v FULH.. D 1-1 v WEST.. L 1-0 v SOUT.. L 2-0 v TOTT.. 4 0 2 2 1 4 -3 2

Yes, two goals in 4 games. Sounds about right

coollino · February 28, 2023

I see Leeds decided to lose tonight so that they can win at the weekend

roy vernon · February 28, 2023

davek said:
We've managed 17 goals all season because the idiots in charge left us without forwards all season.

And your point about a one dimensional plan to hit it to Tarkowski at the back post is not right. We've seen open play chances created in three of the last four games for multiple players.

Did you think we'd be free scoring with what we have?

Go and count how many more goals Forest and Wolves have scored all season...one more than us, but you probably see them as 'out of it'.

No Dave I don't see them as out of it and yes we have created chances, that's the worrying thing, we just can't finish. You know that I don't think we are definitely down, but, we are terrible and we probably deserve to go down. Our recruitment has been a joke, Thelwell and the board have probably killed us. There are 5 awful teams in the league and we are one of them, for the second year running.

davek said:
We've managed 17 goals all season because the idiots in charge left us without forwards all season.

And your point about a one dimensional plan to hit it to Tarkowski at the back post is not right. We've seen open play chances created in three of the last four games for multiple players.

Did you think we'd be free scoring with what we have?

Go and count how many more goals Forest and Wolves have scored all season...one more than us, but you probably see them as 'out of it'.

MikeH72 · February 28, 2023

coollino said:
I see Leeds decided to lose tonight so that they can win at the weekend

They may have lost but they played VERY well

JohnRoss23 · February 28, 2023

roy vernon said:
No Dave I don't see them as out of it and yes we have created chances, that's the worrying thing, we just can't finish. You know that I don't think we are definitely down, but, we are terrible and we probably deserve to go down. Our recruitment has been a joke, Thelwell and the board have probably killed us. There are 5 awful teams in the league and we are one of them, for the second year running.

Statistically speaking the more chances we create the better odds of us scoring. Now how many chances it is going to take is the question…. We shall see. Have faith!

perth_blue · February 28, 2023

Surely that's Toney out against us..

mikel_88 · February 28, 2023

roy vernon said:
Yes the thing is though Dave, they can score goals, it's just a matter of time untill the far post Tarkowski ploy is sussed out and our finishing from open play is very poor and that is being kind. We really are in trouble this season and, to be fair, if we can only manage 17 goals in 24 games, we probably deserve to go.

Is why i want mins in the team him and tark both a target then and onana has had some chances

paultheblue · February 28, 2023

Peter The Dog said:
soton and bmouth are down.

i think it will be between us and forest for the other place.

depressing.

I wish it was that simple, Southampton and Bournemouth are both still in this fight we still have 3 teams that need to be below us.

Gilbert.. · February 28, 2023

Watched a few of those cup games tonight. Palhinha cost the same as doucoure. The entire brighton midfield cost less than alex iwobi.
It just hit home why we are on the verge of relegation. They all look comfortable players on the ball.
We pay big money for absolute donkeys.

NathDogg · February 28, 2023

perth_blue said:
Surely that's Toney out against us..

You would hope so.

It’s absolutely criminal that he’s been allowed to continue playing whilst it’s all been going on - he should have been banned the minute the story broke. How’s it took so long to charge him!?

He’s scored goals and affected games all season long, affecting both the top and bottom. It’s scandalous really.

Imagine if you’re relegated by a point from the match you drew with Brentford, and Toney scored to level?! He also scored twice against city didn’t he - imagine if they don’t win the league due to that result?

The whole thing stinks.