Relegation 2022/23

[Eggs]

….worth monitoring last season for comparison. We’re 2 points behind last seasons total at this stage, with Norwich and Watford detached. Much different situation with a few teams scrapping to avoid one relegation position as opposed to many in the mix for all three;

 

[Nymzee]

….worth monitoring last season for comparison. We’re 2 points behind last seasons total at this stage, with Norwich and Watford detached. Much different situation with a few teams scrapping to avoid one relegation position as opposed to many in the mix for all three;

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We were on 20 points, can’t remember league position though. The postponed games really mess with that websites table. It includes the win vs Newcastle but that actually came later on in the season.

 

[Blueclouds]

Luckily Leeds were crap yesterday? This is going to be a tight battle. Villa will be harder to beat. Just one game as a time.

 

[DayL08]

Great result yesterday. Thought we played some decent football at times. The Villa game now becomes so important as it gives us a chance to get to 24 points from 24 games

If we can get to that position then we will get at least a point a game from the last 14. 38 points should easily keep us up.

 

[Eggs]

We were on 20 points, can’t remember league position though. The postponed games really mess with that websites table. It includes the win vs Newcastle but that actually came later on in the season.

….good point. Regardless, it looks a more difficult situation than last season.

On a positive note, I’m sure we’ve got a better equipped Manager and coaches going into the final phase. On a negative note, we don’t have anybody near the quality of Richarlison in the top third of the pitch.

 

[Marius57]

I genuinely think we’ll be competitive in most games under Dyche. Teams will not want to come to Goodison. We’ve got a threat at set pieces, energy in the midfield, and the defence is getting better. I’d fancy us against anyone at home at the moment, and I think Dyche just genuinely doesn’t care who it is we’re playing.

If it was the one criticism I had about Moyes was that he was too reverential to the big teams. Dyche has an odd side to him where he doesn’t seem to really care who we’re playing against, or who is playing for us, he just seems to see it as 11 blokes delivering a performance.

I agree. But the two games we have won have been fine margins. Yes we have generally played well and been the better side, but 1 goal has won the games and arsenal did have chances. And with the 4 teams I mentioned, they all have players who can produce moments of quality and be deadly clinical.

I fully expect us to go and put in a performance in every match, but i thought that on Monday as well. April is a big month for us with 6 games. I’m more confident then I was.

 

[jonnyboy316]

….good point. Regardless, it looks a more difficult situation than last season.

On a positive note, I’m sure we’ve got a better equipped Manager and coaches going into the final phase. On a negative note, we don’t have anybody near the quality of Richarlison in the top third of the pitch.

The sooner one or two teams get cut adrift the better. It could become a real lottery end of season if not. Imagine that Bournemouth game end of season with both clubs still in the fight.

The positive I see is I think there are a couple more clubs involved this time around. Everyone from Palace down should be worried. I can see Leicester pulling away but you might have as many as 7 or 8 involved towards the end compared to the 5 last year.

The other positive is that most of the players went through this pressure last year and despite what some people think there is no lack of character in this side. We have very little quality but we have some leaders

 

[jonnyboy316]

I agree. But the two games we have won have been fine margins. Yes we have generally played well and been the better side, but 1 goal has won the games and arsenal did have chances. And with the 4 teams I mentioned, they all have players who can produce moments of quality and be deadly clinical.

I fully expect us to go and put in a performance in every match, but i thought that on Monday as well. April is a big month for us with 6 games. I’m more confident then I was.

Yes when watching the Villa game that Coutinho goal with the build up a dummy and then the finish. We have not got that in our locker. It is hard to see how we can rely on goals like yesterday and set pieces for the rest of the season. Need DCL fit for at least 10 games

 

[roy vernon]

That's the only drawback that lack of a striker. It was despicable what that owner and board did in the January window. Just for that they should be chased out of town. This is a 145 year old institution and one of the great sporting clubs of the world never mind England, and those chimpanzees should never have been let near it.

The rest of the group we're in - from Forest down - will take this new course of ours VERY seriously if we beat Villa next week.

Dyche is a massive factor in our chances to stay up. He said midweek that the goals will have to come from across the team and we saw that today with chances for two of the central midfielders, 2 CBs, LB and the goal from the RB....oh, and the forward.

Plenty of teams have adapted before and we have the quality and strength in numbers to do that in the last 15 games...and you never know, we may even get a few goals out of the forwards we do have...Calvert-Lewin included.

My worry as well Dave, as I said to you last week, I worry that the failure to sign a centre forward may yet come back to relegate us. I tell you what though, I'm far more hopeful than I was in Lampard's final months. I honestly believe he would have had us relegated by Easter.

 

[Nymzee]

With Saints winning yesterday I’m fairly convinced the rest of the league have a WhatsApp group and are conspiring to get us relegated.

 

[lungo]

Luckily Leeds were crap yesterday? This is going to be a tight battle. Villa will be harder to beat. Just one game as a time.

Everton is not good enough to stay in the league.

 

[WA Toffee]

Could yes, but as usual we proved utterly woeful in front of goal. Doesn't appear that will change any time soon. So even if we have those chances next week we'll likely not convert them again. We could get luckier off corners mind you, great save by Meslier off Tarkowski. But efforts by Mykolenko, McNeil, Doucouré, Maupay and Onana were laughable.

If we hadn't have fluked that Coleman goal we'd likely all be virtually accepting relegation today.

Dyche best be drilling it into them that it's just nowhere good enough in the final third and that they need to improve dramatically and immediately.

To think that was probably our on-paper easiest fixture now gone and we only just about dragged it over the line - extremely concerning.

Just to be clear, every good thing we do is luck not skill, and every bad thing is lack of skill, not unlucky?

 

[kev]

Just to be clear, every good thing we do is luck not skill, and every bad thing is lack of skill, not unlucky?

Also every chance we miss was an 'open goal' and any goal we do score was an obvious fluke.

 

[toffee-boy]

I'm predicting that it will go down to the last game of the season at home against Bournemouth where we will need a win draw or loss we go down and Bournemouth stays up.

 

[Chrismac]

Villa game is huge now, win that and we're half way there.
If GP is rocking and we go high intensity and play for set pieces we can put real pressure on them.
They are good going forward but Arsenal scored 4 and couldve had 6 yesterday at Villa Park after hardly troubling us the week before.
Let's do a Newcastle and go on a proper run, might even get Dom and Yerry back for a couple to help keep the momentum going.