Who should replace Frank Lampard?

[ForeverEverton]

Newcastle have money now

So money made Almiron, St Maximin, Fraser, Willock all score goals before the arrival of better players?

 

[ForeverEverton]

How do you define ‘failed’?

Are you being realistic?

Name a Chelsea manager to do worse in the last decade or so.... I`ll wait....

 

[Legend Barry Horne]

So money made Almiron, St Maximin, Fraser, Willock all score goals before the arrival of better players?

But that’s why they’re moving up the table isn’t it?

A key problem we currently have is people are concerned re the financial state of the club so much harder to buy / attract players than it was

That’s why it’s harder than it would have been in the past to get out of the current situation that we do have - by throwing money at a striker

And why I think we should think twice about throwing away quality people currently involved with the club

 

[Legend Barry Horne]

Name a Chelsea manager to do worse in the last decade or so.... I`ll wait....

Most of the managers recruited by Chelsea were well proven managers with years of track record

The idea with Lampard is getting behind a young manager with potential

One of the Chelsea managers was Benitez, who came with a great deal of experience but, like pretty much all managers it seems, it didn’t work for him at EFC

 

[skumar55]

Most of the managers recruited by Chelsea were well proven managers with years of track record

The idea with Lampard is getting behind a young manager with potential

One of the Chelsea managers was Benitez, who came with a great deal of experience but, like pretty much all managers it seems, it didn’t work for him at EFC

Lampard has shown no potential, he’s record is worse than gerrards at villa

 

[Legend Barry Horne]

Lampard has shown no potential, he’s record is worse than gerrards at villa

‘Fooled by randomness’

If we’d have signed the striker or DCL stayed fit, but with FLs decisions otherwise being identical, people would be viewing him more positively, despite all his actions being the same

People more broadly will likely one day see things in those terms but have not yet reached that position - so we have this type of debate

 

[ForeverEverton]

Most of the managers recruited by Chelsea were well proven managers with years of track record

The idea with Lampard is getting behind a young manager with potential

One of the Chelsea managers was Benitez, who came with a great deal of experience but, like pretty much all managers it seems, it didn’t work for him at EFC

And Carlo of course...

At Chelsea Lampards PPG was 1.67 over 57 games, you just dont last at Chelsea if you cant do the job consistently well, which is the polar opposite of our club, we reward someone doing a poor job....

Can`t see how he turns it around TBH

 

[JLW]

Lads it doesn’t matter who replaces who at this club, players manager coaching staff we get served the same tripe year after year! The problems are off the pitch that’s why nothing changes when we change personnel on the pitch.

 

[ForeverEverton]

‘Fooled by randomness’

If we’d have signed the striker or Dominic Calvert-Lewin stayed fit, but with FLs decisions otherwise being identical, people would be viewing him more positively, despite all his actions being the same

People more broadly will likely one day see things in those terms but have not yet reached that position - so we have this type of debate

Results is what managers are judged on, this side is virtually his own now. Yes he had restrictions but he has a better side relatively than Moyes had in his first few seasons and spent much much more than Moyes.

Joe Royle had a worse team picking up from the person who is considered to be the worst of all time and has a better record than most since....

 

[Legend Barry Horne]

And Carlo of course...

At Chelsea Lampards PPG was 1.67 over 57 games, you just dont last at Chelsea if you cant do the job consistently well, which is the polar opposite of our club, we reward someone doing a poor job....

Can`t see how he turns it around TBH

Do you think landing a couple of decent forward players would help turn things around?

How do you think the club can best recapture success over the mid term, in the context of the way things have developed in recent years?

How do you think the club as a whole should best respond to poor runs of form, in such a way that any action helps the club improve over a longer period?

 

[ForeverEverton]

Do you think landing a couple of decent forward players would help turn things around?

How do you think the club can best recapture success over the mid term, in the context of the way things have developed in recent years?

How do you think the club as a whole should best respond to poor runs of form, in such a way that any action helps the club improve over a longer period?

Landing a couple of attackers would help if they aren`t the level of Maupay and McNeil for £30m+ that he signed off on...

To recapture success in the short, medium and long term you need a manager who has demonstrated the ability to have a team over achieve or get the best out of the players at his disposal.... This team is better than it has shown, its the manager that gets that out of them with shape, tactics and patterns of play.

I`ve seen games where we could have Ronaldo and Messi up front but it wouldn`t have made a difference due to playing a back 5 which Frank tends to do when he gets a bit scared i.e. v City.... Frank has never over achieved with a team, not at Derby, not at Chelsea and despite many thinking he has a better team here than Rafael he has actually managed to do worse than him.

Frank is not the manager you think he is, time will show that unfortunately it will be at the expense of sending this club down and that would mean seeing the club going right to the brink. There is no way this club can be relegated and then be within EFL rules which would mean certain relegation again...

 

[Legend Barry Horne]

Landing a couple of attackers would help if they aren`t the level of Maupay and McNeil for £30m+ that he signed off on...

To recapture success in the short, medium and long term you need a manager who has demonstrated the ability to have a team over achieve or get the best out of the players at his disposal.... This team is better than it has shown, its the manager that gets that out of them with shape, tactics and patterns of play.

I`ve seen games where we could have Ronaldo and Messi up front but it wouldn`t have made a difference due to playing a back 5 which Frank tends to do when he gets a bit scared i.e. v City.... Frank has never over achieved with a team, not at Derby, not at Chelsea and despite many thinking he has a better team here than Rafael he has actually managed to do worse than him.

Frank is not the manager you think he is, time will show that unfortunately it will be at the expense of sending this club down and that would mean seeing the club going right to the brink. There is no way this club can be relegated and then be within EFL rules which would mean certain relegation again...

But what do you think the answer is in terms of a general strategy, in the context of the last few years and approach to managerial hirings and firings?

We’ve brought in a range of managers with good track records elsewhere

For whatever reason it hasn’t worked for them at EFC. So is the problem the managers or something else? Is focusing so specifically on the manager always the answer?

Gray and Townsend were below the usual standard but brought in by the predecessor due to the financial constraints. McNeil I think was seen as one for the future as much as now and happened to be available - Maupay I don’t think was the number one target but brought in in the absence of that coming off (and the major issue I think). Who would you suggest signing to improve the forward line?

 

[blue to the bone]

Dyche has experience as a manager of low to mid tier premiership / championship teams but Lampard is a young manager, bright guy, driven with a lot of experience at the top of the game and I feel his ceiling could ultimately be a fair bit higher than Dyche’s, given time

Also, as mentioned, the club recruited well in the summer excluding the striker department - that’s the key problem but are we expecting them to have nailed everything

Coady, Tarkowski, Onana and Gueye were all good signings

If he's sacked by us he will not be sought after by many clubs.
He will do well to manage a Premier league side again.

 

[Legend Barry Horne]

If he's sacked by us he will not be sought after by many clubs.
He will do well to manage a Premier league side again.

This is extreme

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

We know what they are though: cowards.

But two wrongs dont make a right.

We have an tone deaf crowd that cant figure out when to STFU and when to get behind a team needing encouragment. It's feast or famine with this fanbase, and especially the GP crowd. Either magnificent support or the opposition's 12th man.

Unfortunately most of our match going fans were weaned on Moyes' hoofball and think that lumping the ball up to a big divvy to try and win the second ball is what football looks like. Every manager since has struggled to educate our fans as to how the game has to be played in the 21st century....which is ironic really given that Everton historically were recognised for churning out good football teams.

Moyes evolved the squad away from “hoofball” long before he left. In fact the season he left we played terrific stuff.