Think @coollino summed it up best referring to them as man baby incels.
Quentin Tarantino "Current movie era worst in Hollywood history"
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mmmmsnouts
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Man baby incels and horny teenage boys make up the entire movie theater target audience now. Any other movie is blatant Oscar bait that will make your eyes roll back into your head.
TheBigIguana
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I think it's tough for movies now that "TV" is high quality. It's not really TV when it is all consumed via streaming but the best shows are mostly all from this century because the medium is completely different now. It's hard for a movie to compete really. I'm not sure it's a good excuse but it makes sense.
Tarantino creates excellent dialogue.
It's what makes him great.
His characters are real because he writes what they say from a real perspective.
It's what makes him great.
His characters are real because he writes what they say from a real perspective.
mmmmsnouts
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There's enough room on TV to experiment and create real art. Movies are a commodity that have to make money which is why the stories are all recycled comic book trash.
TheBigIguana
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Yes and back in the day that was kind of the opposite. TV had limited space so people had to be drawn in or it wasn't on TV anymore. Now they can tell longer stories and it makes for really high quality work. It's almost like they swapped roles.
McBain
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Partly true, but its really not quite like this.
Television is really structured, theres nothing really experimental about it. On films you can have a single camera and way more time to create shots through ‘pre vis’ and storyboarding, get arty and push the envelope with angles etc. You film a minute or two per day on films (one page of script usually = one day filming), and between 5 - 8 pages on TV.
TV is usually a two camera set up, and that affects the lighting. Its ALL about lighting. TV shows typically have multiple Directors and the first is the ‘set up’ Director. The showrunners or producers set the tone. Its up to TV Directors to get enough coverage by how many set ups (they do 3 or 4 setups = 6 to 8 different angles of the same scene) where films can do 1 shot.
You’re right in that movies are a commodity that have to make money, and TV shows are usually pre-sold and have strict budgets, but a film can take shape as your shooting it, and it can attract more investment based on the results, where TV is a set figure that is much more a product.
I havent read the story but I reckon its the diversity of scripts and characters that are drying up, just like music. Films are just not as controversal or revolutionary as its evolved over time, and now everyones a filmmaker and its not exclusive to make films anymore. The reliance on tentpole films to fund the diversity within filmmaking isnt new, but the audiences are hyper critical and prone to way more extreme and smarter views. Filmmakers are absolutely terrified of you, and would rather play it safe so they get another job next time.
Step out of line and they get publicly murdered.
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DuuuncanHadaPigeon
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Generally love Tarantino movies but thought once upon a time in Hollywood was crap
Gwladysstreetlad
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The lack of good movies comes down to the lack of people going to the cinema and the lack of people going to the cinema comes down the cost of going to the cinema. A mum and dad taking two kids is looking at £50 minimum for the whole experience with the popcorn ect. Nobody is paying that kind of money regularly for a film where you're basically just taking a chance on it. Of course people are just paying it safe and sticking the obviously mediocre superhero, car racing, transformers type ect films because at least they know what they're getting with them. Even if you're just going to the pictures with friends why would you want to pay £10, £15, £20 to see a film (before you factor in the drinks and food ect) that could well turn out to be dreadful when you can hang out with said friends and watch tv shows of far better quality? They've priced out most of the casual movie going audience and consequently have to meet the expectations of the only people willing will to pay what's asked of them regularly.
Maybe he could help change it by releasing some movies of his own again.
42% of all movie releases in the last few years have been franchises. Creativity in the movies is bloody awful and they deserve all the pain they get for churning out cookie cutter nonsense.
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Tigger
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Agree, I didnt make it to the end which is very rare.
You missed one of the all time Tarantino great endings there.
Indeed there are brilliant movies still being made, too many to keep up with infact, it's a little sad the cinema is no longer the showpiece it once was but that is a result of capitalism squeezing what it can out of the arts. Lazy comments from a breeze block headed gammon
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