F1 - 2022 Season

longers · October 9, 2022

Looks like the entire race is going to be wet !

longers · October 9, 2022

Unbelievable, could have been Bianchi all over again. You could easily argue this was even worse with the tractor cruising around the track.

This race isn't happening anyway, F1 is dumb as a box of rocks, they never learn, JUST START THE RACES EARLIER WHEN RAIN IS FORECAST !

d34noj · October 9, 2022

longers said:
Unbelievable, could have been Bianchi all over again. You could easily argue this was even worse with the tractor cruising around the track.

This race isn't happening anyway, F1 is dumb as a box of rocks, they never learn, JUST START THE RACES EARLIER WHEN RAIN IS FORECAST !

To be fair, doing 250kmh under double yellows with 10% visibility is reckless.

longers · October 9, 2022

Schumacher was in the lead of this race for about 0.5 seconds

evilwebby · October 9, 2022

Another utter farce of a race.

evilwebby · October 9, 2022

So dumb that on a track where you have clear aquaplaning the drivers still would prefer to race on the inters. Race control should have the authority to dictate the starting tyre under such circumstances

d34noj · October 9, 2022

evilwebby said:
Another utter farce of a race.

It's got to go ahead, fizzy drinks need their points.

I think the FIA were hoping the Championship would be done and dusted today in view of the overspend findings - delaying the announcement till tomorrow so the news is lost in the 'celebrations' that the racist Belgian has been gifted another Championship.

PhilM · October 9, 2022

I get the desire to race after the farce of last season's Spa, but ultimately this isn't racing. There's a precession based on the conditions and tyre choices.

I think @d34noj has a point about the FIA wanting to get the championship finished quickly. Where was the response to Max's dangerous manoeuvre yesterday?

d34noj · October 9, 2022

PhilM said:
I get the desire to race after the farce of last season's Spa, but ultimately this isn't racing. There's a precession based on the conditions and tyre choices.

I think @d34noj has a point about the FIA wanting to get the championship finished quickly. Where was the response to Max's dangerous manoeuvre yesterday?

The response was a 'stern talking to'.

Yet another example of the FIA bending over for Red Bull. May as well just get rid of Bin Salayem and let Horner make the decisions.

longers · October 9, 2022

Merc is a sloth on straights, fairly sure Hamilton would be lapping considerably faster in clean air.

No big engine changes until 2026 as well :confused:

PhilM · October 9, 2022

d34noj said:
The response was a 'stern talking to'.

Yet another example of the FIA bending over for Red Bull. May as well just get rid of Bin Salayem and let Horner make the decisions.

Red Bull's relationship with the authorities baffles me. Why do they pander with them so much? Likewise with Sky F1, they talk directly to Horner all the time.

They're their mouthpiece.

d34noj · October 9, 2022

longers said:
Merc is a sloth on straights, fairly sure Hamilton would be lapping considerably faster in clean air

This.

New aero was supposed to help this, doesn't seem to be the case for Mercedes, seem to have gone backwards. That 'revolutionary' floor of theirs is atrocious in a real world scenario - should have sneaked a flexi-floor in there like other teams.

PhilM · October 9, 2022

d34noj said:
This.

New aero was supposed to help this, doesn't seem to be the case for Mercedes, seem to have gone backwards. That 'revolutionary' floor of theirs is atrocious in a real world scenario - should have sneaked a flexi-floor in there like other teams.

When one of the greatest drivers in F1 history, who has a reputation for thriving in wet weather conditions, is stuck behind an Alpine, you know the car's tripe.

d34noj · October 9, 2022

Massively intrigued to see what happens with the overspending controversy, noticed the reporting has changed already - first of all 2 teams, 1 minus 5% (allegedly Aston) 1 massively overspend (apparently way over 5%) then a week later 2 teams negligible overspend.

Seems to me Red Bull are the LFC of the F1 world.

PhilM · October 9, 2022

d34noj said:
Massively intrigued to see what happens with the overspending controversy, noticed the reporting has changed already - first of all 2 teams, 1 minus 5% (allegedly Aston) 1 massively overspend (apparently way over 5%) then a week later 2 teams negligible overspend.

Seems to me Red Bull are the LFC of the F1 world.

If the FIA were to take the issue seriously and punish those who have overspent, it would (sorry, should) impact on Max's and RB's title hopes right now.

They won't do that, ever. I'm sure they've been looking at the finances and seeing how the impact could be limited, through allowing mitigation.

It should be simple: have you overspent? Yes or no. How much have you overspent? Let the other teams see the information, and then have a discussion.

Having these discussions behind closed doors is making the thought that there will be leeway provided for certain teams or individuals.

Leclerc has potentially thrown away second place with his driving at the end of the race. He's got so much potential - real driving ability - but he loves an error.