Yes or No: post WBA result should Martinez be sacked?

[bizzaro]

Honestly, I read your posts and that of your small band of brothers on the issue of the manager and I shake my head wondering what possesses you lot. Why on earth do you detest a manager so much and go out of your way to try and destabilise his position here?

I'd love to know who's pulling all your strings. There's defo someone putting you up to it. It reminds me very much of the Hodgson liverpool tenure when the arl arses outside the club who wanted "king Kenny" in would ridicule and generally use the local and social media to ram their agenda home.

Thank goodness most Evertonians aren't the gullible clowns the Kopites are and the plot to unseat our manager is stuck in the starting gate.

I wonder what future Evertonians all them years from now...


In 5 years say about all this?

 

[Brennan]

Honestly, I read your posts and that of your small band of brothers on the issue of the manager and I shake my head wondering what possesses you lot. Why on earth do you detest a manager so much and go out of your way to try and destabilise his position here?

I'd love to know who's pulling all your strings. There's defo someone putting you up to it. It reminds me very much of the Hodgson liverpool tenure when the arl arses outside the club who wanted "king Kenny" in would ridicule and generally use the local and social media to ram their agenda home.

Thank goodness most Evertonians aren't the gullible clowns the Kopites are and the plot to unseat our manager is stuck in the starting gate.

Hodgson didn't have Liverpool 12th after 22 games to be fair.

 

[The Equaliser]

The question was pretty clear. At that moment in time, do you think he should be sacked. No need to abstain, either you do, or you don't. If you're in the 'not right now but I'm worried' camp, then that's a no.

It is hardly surprising that 'no' wins these polls, as it's an 'as is' poll. A question of 'would you sack RM at some point over the next 10-15 games if results continue' would yield a vastly different outcome I reckon. Would separate the devotees from the pragmatic.

But that's the point isn't it ? Voting NO is claimed by his luvvies that it means everything is rosy and fine in the garden as far as his position is concerned, when it quite clearly it isn't. That's why many people don't vote in these things.

They are like general elections. Afterwards the winners claim that they have a ringing endorsement to do everything they want, but that is far from the truth.

 

[bizzaro]

Hodgson didn't have Liverpool 12th after 22 games to be fair.

According to the well known souce of information Wikipedia:

It was the gash signings and Kenny the plotter wot killed him


Hodgson made further signings in goalkeeperBrad Jones, defenders Danny Wilson andPaul Konchesky, midfielders Christian Poulsen and Raul Meireles, as well as re-signing full-back Fábio Aurélio, who had been released by the club earlier in the summer. Meanwhile, Benitez signings Albert Riera,Diego Cavalieri and Javier Mascherano were all sold, whilst Alberto Aquilani was loaned out to Juventus and Emiliano Insúa was loaned out to Galatasaray.

On 29 August, Hodgson achieved his first league win, defeating West Bromwich Albion1–0 at Anfield.[75]

After that, Liverpool had a series of poor results, one of which saw the club eliminated from the League Cup on 23 September by League Two strugglers Northampton Town at Anfield, losing on penalties.[76] Prior to the home game against newly promotedBlackpool on 3 October, Hodgson responded to his critics, describing himself as "one of the most respected coaches in Europe" and said it was "insulting" to suggest he couldn't handle Liverpool's big-name players.[77]Liverpool lost the game 2–1,[78] leaving them third from bottom after seven games and Hodgson admitted that his side were potentially facing a relegation battle.

 

[Kiwi]

Goodness gracious me. Lots of dodgy facts and suspect opinions culminating in name calling and general ridicule when there are disagreements. Any of you considered becoming a politician?

 

[bizzaro]

But that's the point isn't it ? Voting NO is claimed by his luvvies that it means everything is rosy and fine in the garden as far as his position is concerned, when it quite clearly it isn't. That's why many people don't vote in these things.

They are like general elections. Afterwards the winners claim that they have a ringing endorsement to do everything they want, but that is far from the truth.

I think what @davek is saying is the poll shows

Evertonians aren't bottlers and panickers.

There's a recognition there's a certain imbalance in our sqaud. But the manager hasn't signed someone like Konchesky for stupid money.

The manager could go out and buy quality. Preferably on the wing. As we need to address there

 

[Goat]

Hodgson didn't have Liverpool 12th after 22 games to be fair.

He was sacked after 20 games, they were 6th on 34 points.

 

[Chang Elephant]

He's got to turn this round quick tbf, anymore gluesniffing resulting in the likes of Hibbert at left back, Osman in for Besic etc and even Kenwright will take action.

 

[paultheblue]

Don't blame the method of delivery if the result doesn't suit your agenda.

I would have said 37% wanting him sacked was hardly a vote of confidence as out of a 40,000 gate that would be in the region of 15,000. As each poll goes by and as results continue to slide the percentage goes up.
I dont believe that any Everton fan wants to see us lose so he is sacked as you seem to suggest. But you just cant carry on losing without some action being taken it ultimately is in his own hands a win in the next three games would buy him more time but 3 defeats would make his position untenable.
It would be shame as most of us bought into Robertos dream but were not Wigan we dont do relegation and if its a choice between between Martinez and the club its got to be Everton every time.
There were some magnificent performances last year but for me the alarm bells started ringing at Anfield last year when we lost 4-0 but it could have been 10.
So Roberto its up to you show us you are truly a manager who can lift a team from the depths of despair or are you just another one trick pony.

 

[davek]

Did Hodgson get Liverpool's best PL points tally?

 

[The Cowboy]

But that's the point isn't it ? Voting NO is claimed by his luvvies that it means everything is rosy and fine in the garden as far as his position is concerned, when it quite clearly it isn't. That's why many people don't vote in these things.

They are like general elections. Afterwards the winners claim that they have a ringing endorsement to do everything they want, but that is far from the truth.

I don't think you can liken it to the general election. More so to the Scottish referendum, perhaps. Same thing applies there, either you want independence or you don't. Abstaining is effectively a no vote. So just vote no!

FWIW I voted yes here and have absolutely no problem with the fact that the no votes will also contain 'possibly yes in the future' votes. That's the nature of this particular poll.

 

[L4Everton]

I would have said 37% wanting him sacked was hardly a vote of confidence as out of a 40,000 gate that would be in the region of 15,000. As each poll goes by and as results continue to slide the percentage goes up.
I dont believe that any Everton fan wants to see us lose so he is sacked as you seem to suggest. But you just cant carry on losing without some action being taken it ultimately is in his own hands a win in the next three games would buy him more time but 3 defeats would make his position untenable.
It would be shame as most of us bought into Robertos dream but were not Wigan we dont do relegation and if its a choice between between Martinez and the club its got to be Everton every time.
There were some magnificent performances last year but for me the alarm bells started ringing at Anfield last year when we lost 4-0 but it could have been 10.
So Roberto its up to you show us you are truly a manager who can lift a team from the depths of despair or are you just another one trick pony.

Correct. Thanks for some clear minded sense without the vitriol and evasive ways that certain others have exhibited. Rep & likes for you.

 

[Goat]

Did Hodgson get Liverpool's best PL points tally?

You know football was around before Sky, right David?

 

[bizzaro]

Did Hodgson get Liverpool's best PL points tally?

No mate. He bought Konchesky and Brad Jones

 

[DanEFC92]

He was sacked after 20 games, they were 6th on 34 points.

Martinez out, Dalglish in.