Will history repeats itself?

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Apart from Barca and Madrid, no Spanish club would be able to afford our better players. So I'm not worried about losing Kev.
 
IllinoisBlue said:
We usually lose one big name player in the summer, usually under acrimonious circumstances, but sweetended by a good cash return.

2013 - Fellaini
2012 - Rodwell
2011 - Arteta
2010 -
2009 - Lescott

I hope Roberto can keep this team together and bring in some new faces, but will the lure of money prove too much for Barkley, Stones, or one of the others?

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I hope so, each of those sales has resulted in a better side than the one before it.
 
Its a myth that we sell our best players because of the board, We are like any other club in the league, Everyone has a price

Lescott,Arteta,Rooney and Fellaini all made it clear they wanted to move on, Apart from Rooney I think we got great deals for the other three

Rodwell was an offer to good to turn down, A 10m+ bid for a fringe player who had an awful injury record we would have been mad to turn it down

We knocked back bids for Baines and tied him down to a new contract this season so we don't just sell sell sell, I honestly believe nobody important will be sold unless A. They ask for a move B. The bid is so daft we can not turn it down

Everybody in this league has a price end of
 

Eggs said:
...if I remember rightly, Arteta was very keen to go and made that clear as soon as interest was known. Fellaini was apparently so keen to push a deadline deal through that he lost any % he might've been entitled to if we had simply accepted the offer.
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We needed the Arteta money to pay the banks, we even admitted it in the end. That summer was a fire sale and about the 3rd transfer window we never made a major signing. I remember reading " He cried down the phone " story but its too much of a coincidence.

Felli in the last few hours put in a transfer request, correct but I'm sure that was an agreement by him and us. For weeks United had sniffed around and put a few bids in for him and Baines, did they push for moves? Nope, they carried on being professional.

We as a club always try to spin " It's the player, not us " we have done it for years.
 
Eggs said:
...if I remember rightly, Arteta was very keen to go and made that clear as soon as interest was known. Fellaini was apparently so keen to push a deadline deal through that he lost any % he might've been entitled to if we had simply accepted the offer.
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Yes, from what I remember, Arteta wanted to go the summer before, but Moyes made him a 'if we don't get top 4 next season, you can go' promise. When the offer from Arsenal came in, he made it clear he wanted off. He wanted it so bad, he even took a pay-cut. Which is unheard of when a good player is head-hunted by a bigger club.
 
Moomin said:
We needed the Arteta money to pay the banks, we even admitted it in the end. That summer was a fire sale and about the 3rd transfer window we never made a major signing. I remember reading " He cried down the phone " story but its too much of a coincidence.

Felli in the last few hours put in a transfer request, correct but I'm sure that was an agreement by him and us. For weeks United had sniffed around and put a few bids in for him and Baines, did they push for moves? Nope, they carried on being professional.

We as a club always try to spin " It's the player, not us " we have done it for years.
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....perhaps, but in these cases it does seem that the players did want to move. We might have needed the money, but perhaps we even used the players preference to tease as much out of the buyer as possible,
 

deipnosophist said:
I get the feeling (and ok, I'm biased!) that Everton at the moment is a club players would rather be part of/join than a club they'd want to leave
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It's still early days and a lot depends on this window but I have a real sense Martinez is building something here.
Maybe that's just my eternal optimism setting me up for a fall but I'm not worried about who we lose, more excited about who comes in.
 
Eggs said:
....perhaps, but in these cases it does seem that the players did want to move. We might have needed the money, but perhaps we even used the players preference to tease as much out of the buyer as possible,
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We needed the Arteta money, we needed it to pay down the overdraft as ordered by Barclays. Below is a quote from an Gaurdian interview with Moyes who admitted what happened to the Arteta money, and i forgot all about the club making the Echo apologise for printing a true story haha, we really are a joke club at times.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/jan/10/everton-tottenham-david-moyes

The Everton manager raised approximately £17m through player sales in the last transfer window after Barclays insisted the club remain within its £25m overdraft limit.
Moyes has said that the decision to sell Arteta was taken for "football reasons" but conceded on Tuesday that he will not be given the proceeds to spend on new players. "I think everybody knows that the bank wanted the money. I think you all knew that," said Moyes. Everton officials demanded and received an apology from the Liverpool Echo last year when the newspaper reported that the Arteta money would not be given to Moyes in January.
 
tonka1878 said:
It's still early days and a lot depends on this window but I have a real sense Martinez is building something here.
Maybe that's just my eternal optimism setting me up for a fall but I'm not worried about who we lose, more excited about who comes in.
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We will definately bring players in this summer, its just the transfers windows that follow which worry me.
 

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