Why is America so ace?

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bluemangroup said:
Chicago Toffee has just poured the tea in the harbour.
1776 all over again.
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Tough call this as I'm fond of both Chigga and Nige. Unfortunately Nige is bringing these redcoats we've been hearing of to battle.

Hang on. Redcoats. Bluenose1995 ffs. He was our Nostradamus and we banned him. He was right. OH WHAT HAVE WE DONE???
 

chicoazul said:
Tough call this as I'm fond of both Chigga and Nige. Unfortunately Nige is bringing these redcoats we've been hearing of to battle.

Hang on. Redcoats. Bluenose1995 ffs. He was our Nostradamus and we banned him. He was right. OH WHAT HAVE WE DONE???
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How many times did you check to make sure you got the the right way round? AF has been banned for less.
 
chicoazul said:
Tough call this as I'm fond of both Chigga and Nige. Unfortunately Nige is bringing these redcoats we've been hearing of to battle.

Hang on. Redcoats. Bluenose1995 ffs. He was our Nostradamus and we banned him. He was right. OH WHAT HAVE WE DONE???
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Delphi Oracle banned? We've shot ourselves in the foot there slightly.
 

ChicagoToffee said:
I'm not knocking the Brits, Churchill, their resolve or their efforts but facts are facts and if we hadn't gotten involved with the supply of materiel materiAl - and didnt Britain at least initially buy a lot of supplies from the US? (Land Lease) and men (after Pearl Harbor), the Nazi wasn't it the nazi rocket scientists that put Armstrong on the moon? invasion of the British Isles was in the offing air supperiority and radar kept them off British shores as well as through air superiority the means to track and eventually destroy the superior german naval fleet. Or at least until Hitler **** himself by deciding to wage a land war, in Russia, in winter was a move forced upon germany because of their oil requirements to fuel their conquests and the inconvenience of having an age old enemy draw up its strength on what would have been their weaker flank had they pushed all out to take Britain. If he had read a single history book about Napoleon, he would have concluded that Operation Barbarossa was really a **** idea. Napoleon didnt have the benefit of Blitzkrieg - armoured attacks at speeds until then never before capable
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There are paintings in Britain older than the United States. Heed the abolition of slavery. And pray at the alter of the British invented internet.
Getting all misty eyed here.
 
The problem with taking credit for the american part in the world wars is surely you can't do that without also taking blame for american atrocticies? Namely the slave trade, the toppling of democracies in latin america, the occupation of the philippines, the support of dictators and, chiefly, the genocide of the native americans, something which was just as brutal a holocaust as that of the jews which america helped stop 100 years later?

That's why I'm not using british history as a plus for us, because all countries have done as many bad things in their past as good things and it's not me responible either way.

At least I've done my part in keeping the crime, suicide, infant mortality and unemployment rates lower in the UK than the US. I can brag about that happily.
 
To be fair, it seems we're always gearing up for some sort of skirmish and if one doesn't make it self apparent, we're OK with inventing one. See Iraq and those weapons of mass destruction.
 

America has a large population of mostly level headed, educated people. We also have almost unlimited access to the internet. The result is a very vocal minority of people who like to poop in the shallow end of the gene pool. Please forgive the rest of us.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to eat my weight in hot wings.
 
I ain't shying away from any of those things. But I can take credit where I please. I don't really have to be fair in what drum I choose to beat, do I?

Slave trade - we were the biggest market, no doubt. Don't act like the British didn't play any part in the slave trade. You might have been first to abolition but that didn't stop the British merchant marine from having a helping hand in getting the slaves to the Americas. You did have the biggest merchant navy at the time. The Confederacy had to rely on British blockade runners to get war materiel and it wasn't because their ships were loaded with slaves. They just didn't have any.

Toppling of democracies v. colonization. What's the difference? You're tossing over whatever is in place to suit your own interest.

You got me on the Native American bit. But again, I'm sure the British always acted with clean hands in their colonization of natives in other places.

So you haven't mugged anyone, haven't killed yourself, survived childbirth and have a job. Cheers. We're both doing our parts then.
 
Let's be honest. This is all tongue and cheek kind of stuff. I always instigate when the US threads pop up and usually get the same responses albeit from different lads. Like any American, I'll want to have the last word, saying it way too loud and saying while wearing some sort of beer logo t-shirt and jorts while eating a corndog.

Americans are everything - smart, dumb, cultured, completely unsophisticated, generous, remarkably selfish, liberal and conservative, gun toting and tree hugging. That's why we're awesome. We're everything at the same time and we have no filter about whatever it is we are.

If you're in any foreign city, you can pick out the Americans in two seconds, probably mostly by obnoxiousness. We just really don't care. We're comfy being who we are.
 
For the record, the british empire has a worst record on genociding natives than the usa, does. I wouldn't deny that nor that the marshall plan is the most altrusitic yet effective peice of legisture any country has ever passed. Few nations that have ever existed have done as much good as the USA did in the 40s.

ChicagoToffee said:
So you haven't mugged anyone, haven't killed yourself, survived childbirth and have a job. Cheers. We're both doing our parts then.
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I survived all of childhood, if you please. Don't downgrade my achievment.
 

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