Why have births outside wedlock become the norm?

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Weddings cost money and younger people already have enough challenges with housing and school prices before even thinking of spending on a wedding.

The same reason we are having less kids in general. We can't afford it for the most part.

Be honest mate, me and the missus have had enough with pets. Less about affordability, more about sanity. Kids can gtfo.

 

[ste d' indica]

Is that what yer ma said? She muttered something to me about not wanting to be tied down.

Really? She always likes it when I tie her down....

 

[Tipp blue]

Weddings cost money and younger people already have enough challenges with housing and school prices before even thinking of spending on a wedding.

The same reason we are having less kids in general. We can't afford it for the most part.

Not sure what kind of gifts are tradition in other countries but in Ireland it's cash, we actually made a profit on our wedding. That said the misses made our cake and her sister owns a bridal shop and the dress and bridesmaid dresses were her gift to us. So we saved a nice few pounds there.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Really? She always likes it when I tie her down....

Betrayed here, like.

Having said that, it's only little @emir who suffered by not having his father around.

 

[emir]

Read the thread title.

Don't even need to check who's thread it is.

Weird little ferret.

What's wrong with you buddy?

 

[BNJ1878]

What's wrong with you buddy?

Nothing mate.

I get its the "Ale House" and therefore a relatively open forum, but you love starting threads that are primed to cause (occasional) heated debate, often stoked by your often ill informed opinions on the subject.

When you get called out on some of your remarks you disappear, thinking up your next thread.

Just a little odd, that's all.

Cheers.

EG: I just checked your "Downfall of religion" thread, you vanish on page five, (the same date you opened the thread BTW!>despite people continuing to ask you questions later on.

If you start a thread, at least stick with it until it dies.

 

[Nymzee]

Snides is that you?

 

[tommye]

One cultural shift I've noticed is how common it's become to not marry your partner and then having children. This is very apparent in the UK, where as not so common with White Americans. Why is this happening? Do you think the rise in births outside of wedlock is creating societal problems such as single parent households and children being raised under unstable homes with struggling income?

To quote the forum fruitloop...

Nah I'm just showing how poor of an excuse using "tradition" to justify something is. Something that was appropriate in 1875 may no longer be appropriate in the year 2021.

Is the answer obviously.
Marriage is an outdated tradition

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

This smells of Keith Azul. To @emir we are just mere geordies nibbling at transfer tidbits

 

[emir]

Nothing mate.

I get its the "Ale House" and therefore a relatively open forum, but you love starting threads that are primed to cause (occasional) heated debate, often stoked by your often ill informed opinions on the subject.

When you get called out on some of your remarks you disappear, thinking up your next thread.

Just a little odd, that's all.

Cheers.

EG: I just checked your "Downfall of religion" thread, you vanish on page five, (the same date you opened the thread BTW!>despite people continuing to ask you questions later on.

If you start a thread, at least stick with it until it dies.

There's nothing wrong with having threads which encourage critical thinking and intelligent discussion surrounding societal issues right now. Yes I may disappear sometimes as I think it's probably better if I stay away as my presence may cause some users to start trolling in the thread. I rather let a thread naturally flow.

 

[Yarrgh]

It’s an easy out, the mother or kid getting on your nerves? Easy, just go for a pint of milk and don’t come back

That reminds me, I need milk.

Be back soon.

 

[Nymzee]

Personally I'm just too white to get married. Give me a few weeks on the sunbeds and I'll be eligible.

 

[Rob17896]

One cultural shift I've noticed is how common it's become to not marry your partner and then having children. This is very apparent in the UK, where as not so common with White Americans. Why is this happening? Do you think the rise in births outside of wedlock is creating societal problems such as single parent households and children being raised under unstable homes with struggling income?

Not at all. Marriage is easily walked away from. So easy why do it? People struggle because of the mess of a 'society' we have developed. Housing prices, zero hours contracts etc. These pressures cause relationship breakdowns, marriage is unimportant.

You point out 'white americans' in your post. Is colour important or is it because white American Christians are more susceptible to the drivel the church spits out?

 

[BNJ1878]

There's nothing wrong with having threads which encourage critical thinking and intelligent discussion surrounding societal issues right now. Yes I may disappear sometimes as I think it's probably better if I stay away as my presence may cause some users to start trolling in the thread. I rather let a thread naturally flow.

Even when people ask you direct questions, as an example where you get YOUR data from regarding education standards?

It's your thread, own it.

Even if you're roundly beaten at every turn.

Own it.

Best of luck.

 

[Efcjake]

Not sure what kind of gifts are tradition in other countries but in Ireland it's cash, we actually made a profit on our wedding. That said the misses made our cake and her sister owns a bridal shop and the dress and bridesmaid dresses were her gift to us. So we saved a nice few pounds there.

Depends what type of missus you marry. Some want a massive day others not so much.

My advice is also to go for a cheap one.