Why are we not pissed?....

tomm1245 · October 16, 2010

First of all the colin Fitz bit is great, it brings up lots of points, but as a evertonian why are we not more pissed off? i have followed this team for 20 years and more. why is king billy still there? we have the name, the top 5 finish for years, the fans, the (ok)finishes, the cup final. why on earth can a team(ok with a bigger brand name than us) be taken from the brink of a 9 point penalty, yet again be in the position to be 'rised from the ashes'. what the f i wrong with us?im so fed up with this [Poor language removed], i love this club more than anything but when will are time come? the injuried for the 6 pointer this week just piss me off, are we cursed? im not even confident this wekend when i shud be, we have far the better team but yet again they have the 'reason' to beat us, so sick of being the 2nd team in 'pool, investment please mr 24/7 (y)

Neiler · October 16, 2010

tomm1245 said:
First of all the colin Fitz bit is great, it brings up lots of points, but as a evertonian why are we not more pissed off? i have followed this team for 20 years and more. why is king billy still there? we have the name, the top 5 finish for years, the fans, the (ok)finishes, the cup final. why on earth can a team(ok with a bigger brand name than us) be taken from the brink of a 9 point penalty, yet again be in the position to be 'rised from the ashes'. what the f i wrong with us?im so fed up with this [Poor language removed], i love this club more than anything but when will are time come? the injuried for the 6 pointer this week just piss me off, are we cursed? im not even confident this wekend when i shud be, we have far the better team but yet again they have the 'reason' to beat us, so sick of being the 2nd team in 'pool, investment please mr 24/7

Because on average they make twice as much as us, they also have huge potential for growth after being mismanaged and money being syphoned of to pay debt and intrest.

In comparrison we dont make as much and what we do make gets ploghed back into the club, so our potential for profit is less, or growing organic revenue without a huge cash injection for a stadium. Other clubs are far attractive to be honest.

What would we protest about, that everything we make goes back into the operating of the club, or just the fact Bill isnt a bilionaire!

Matt Damon · October 16, 2010

tomm1245 said:
First of all the colin Fitz bit is great, it brings up lots of points, but as a evertonian why are we not more pissed off? i have followed this team for 20 years and more. why is king billy still there? we have the name, the top 5 finish for years, the fans, the (ok)finishes, the cup final. why on earth can a team(ok with a bigger brand name than us) be taken from the brink of a 9 point penalty, yet again be in the position to be 'rised from the ashes'. what the f i wrong with us?im so fed up with this [Poor language removed], i love this club more than anything but when will are time come? the injuried for the 6 pointer this week just piss me off, are we cursed? im not even confident this wekend when i shud be, we have far the better team but yet again they have the 'reason' to beat us, so sick of being the 2nd team in 'pool, investment please mr 24/7

Have they though?

And we are a patient lot us blues.

I'd rather wait for the right investment than allow someone in to load £300million debt onto us. Or for us to turn into some sort of joke in the media.

That's why I'm not pissed off.

tomm1245 · October 16, 2010

Lets start making some people sit up....

kenwrong out, we are no further on, good man but done what he can, let hear some fans telling him we want more, sure davey moyes wud want the same, the [Poor language removed] said what they wanted, are we happy with how we are? come on boys let them know what we think? SOK

Neiler · October 16, 2010

You missed the 3 mate.

Im going to sit this one out.

Matt Damon · October 16, 2010

Neiler said:
Because on average they make twice as much as us, they also have huge potential for growth after being mismanaged and money being syphoned of to pay debt and intrest.

In comparrison we dont make as much and what we do make get ploghed back into the club, so our potential for profit is less, or even organic investment without a huge cash injection for a stadium, is pretty minimul.

Other clubs are for attractive to be honest.

What would we protest about, that everything we make goes back into the operating of the club, or just the fact Bill isnt a bilionaire!

And I don't agree with all that either.

We've got a potential to have astronomical growth if we get it right, because our brand is "CLEAN" a brand in the US that thanks to Donovan coming showed how clean it is.

The issues are yes a stadium. But also clarity in any investor coming in and how they recoup their investment.

Equally, Kenwright and his his proxy fellow directors, have their own agendas including recouping their time and investment...

Its all got to click together and thats why nothings happened - YET.

Not to say it won't.

Kenwright's not looking for an outright takeover, he's looking for someone to take a minority or major stake but to keep the current board on board. Hence why the above is taking longer.

tomm1245 · October 16, 2010

Matt Damon said:
Have they though?

And we are a patient lot us blues.

I'd rather wait for the right investment than allow someone in to load £300million debt onto us. Or for us to turn into some sort of joke in the media.

That's why I'm not pissed off.

i know, ive been waiting, dont want to be the next city but in honesty, how long can we keep doing this? ok were fine, were good, were ok, were the nice club, but dont u want more?

Neiler · October 16, 2010

Matt Damon said:
And I don't agree with all that either.

We've got a potential to have astronomical growth if we get it right, because our brand is "CLEAN" a brand in the US that thanks to Donovan coming showed how clean it is.

The issues are yes a stadium. But also clarity in any investor coming in and how they recoup their investment.

Equally, Kenwright and his his proxy fellow directors, have their own agendas including recouping their time and investment...

Its all got to click together and thats why nothings happened - YET.

Not to say it won't.

Kenwright's not looking for an outright takeover, he's looking for someone to take a minority or major stake but to keep the current board on board. Hence why the above is taking longer.

Well any club has potential mate given the sums your prepared to throw at it. As things stand we are pretty much operating at full tilt, give or take 5 mill profit or loss, a new stadium is the key really. But if i was investing a couple of hundread million in a club and was neutral or looking to grow it, i would defo go for say Newcastle over Everton in the current market.

tomm1245 · October 16, 2010

?whats that mate?

Neiler · October 16, 2010

tomm1245 said:
?whats that mate?

Did you not think all the protests over the road were a bit cringe worthy. What exactly would the protest be about?

Matt Damon · October 16, 2010

tomm1245 said:
i know, ive been waiting, dont want to be the next city but in honesty, how long can we keep doing this? ok were fine, were good, were ok, were the nice club, but dont u want more?

There's more than one way to develop a football club. These "marquee" signings and stuff like that is one way and there's our way to quietly go about things.

The global economic situation's still not that great. So we'll have to see.

But I don't think trying to force Kenwright out will do anything postive.

If you saw Hicks on TV in his Sky Interview, he claims that the "internet terrorism" of some of those RAWKs actually scared off genuine investors.

So that lot are lumbered with someone who's going to have to major raise ticket prices to fund any developments.

So its not so clear cut.

If Everton were in such a perilous position Kenwright would have long gone. Its obvious he wants to retain influence even selling a stake in the club. And its a question of what partners he thinks he can bring in to the club, at a price (we'll have to repay "investment") that the existing shareholders, and the club can afford.

For me the key point is if this Ground Share option gets forced on us. Its a no go for me. And if they try and force it on us I for one will not accept it.

Matt Damon · October 16, 2010

Two threads on the same subject in the same morning?

Errr No. Thanks.

tomm1245 · October 16, 2010

lids the problen is that too many blues nowadays think of us as a small club, were not ******* blackburn, were everton, one of the greatest football teams to play. why can the [Poor language removed] shout that they are and we dont? lets let people know that u can come here and have history, a great following(38 tho a week) and a club that will never die? im just sick of hearing about the Rs when i know we have a better club, whats so wrong with us? we have little debt and the best manager in years, lets get out are seats and let pepole know! i wonder if what hapened over the park, wud we have got up as much? i hate to say it but i dont think we wud have, lets start getting a voice and telling the men in charge what we want

Matt Damon · October 16, 2010

tomm1245 said:
lids the problen is that too many blues nowadays think of us as a small club, were not ******* blackburn, were everton, one of the greatest football teams to play. why can the [Poor language removed] shout that they are and we dont? lets let people know that u can come here and have history, a great following(38 tho a week) and a club that will never die? im just sick of hearing about the Rs when i know we have a better club, whats so wrong with us? we have little debt and the best manager in years, lets get out are seats and let pepole know! i wonder if what hapened over the park, wud we have got up as much? i hate to say it but i dont think we wud have, lets start getting a voice and telling the men in charge what we want

Mate. You do know the Blackburn takeover didn't go ahead don't you? That of the two Asian businessmen they were linked with, Saurin Shah and Ahsan Ali Syed, the latter was claimed to have left a string of unpaid debts in the UK several years ago. And had a company closed down in Bahrain

And I don't think we're a small club.

We're a massive club.

And a genuine investor right for us will emerge as long as we keep true to what the clubs about.