Why are Everton as popular as ever?

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Zezti said:
A club only really loses its popularity when it does a Leeds. But even then, it'll still be popular with local supporters.
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Leeds fans still go on like they're a bigger club than Everton like.

Big club, but it's a one-club city. It's like Newcastle syndrome.
 

EFC78 said:
I don't think 30,000 is that big a crowd for a fanbase like ours. Having had a quick look, of all the similar sized clubs, - Villa, Chelsea, Newcastle, Tottenham, Man City, you have to go back to the mid to late 90's when any of them averaged less than 30,000 in a season. For us it was 1994. West Ham and Sunderland have more recently but both have had fairly regular spells in the lower tier in the past 20 years.

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/england.htm

From looking at that, we were around the 33,000 mark before the arrival of Moyes and the improvement in league position under him boosted our crowds more consistently to the 35,000-38,000 range. In 2012, we went down to 33,000 again, and the introduction of Martinez brought it back up once again. There has been a lot of hope in the past 2 seasons going in to the season, but unfortunately the manager didn't perform. We've now got Moshiri and a bright future ahead and I expect us to stay around the 37,000-38,000 mark next season.

We need a bigger ground though. Obstructed views prevent us from selling out more often.
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The obstructed views stuff is a nonsense, people used to watch from the church roof, not because they didn't want a post in their way but because they wanted to see us play and 'be there'.
 
Over 27,500 supporters have already secured their 2016/17 season tickets, 2,500 (10%) up on 2014/15, which in itself was a record-breaking year.

And with a week still to go before the Early Bird window shuts next Wednesday, the club is expecting record sales.

There has been a significant sales lift since the final match of the season, when a team of young guns led by caretaker boss David Unsworth ended a disappointing campaign on a high.

But club officials have pointed out that sales were already ahead of last season’s figure before Martinez’s sacking - and cite a bold new pricing stricture, the Farhad Moshiri factor and the prospect of new signings arriving in the summer.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/
 

toffee matt said:
Leeds have massive support across the country tbf especially in the South .
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We have a big support in the South too, but I agree Leeds seem to as well. Shame those in Yorkshire have never bothered turning out in massive numbers for them at Elland Road though. Don't think they've ever averaged more than 40,000 in a single season, despite being the third biggest City in the country with no other big clubs for 30-40 miles.

Their away support for numbers is one of the best in England in my opinion though.
 
magicjuan said:
The obstructed views stuff is a nonsense, people used to watch from the church roof, not because they didn't want a post in their way but because they wanted to see us play and 'be there'.
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That may be true in previous decades, but that was when football was a lot more affordable for your average fan. Everton offer a pathetic £1 discount on obstructed view tickets, and if you get an obstructed view season ticket, they don't even knock anything off.
 
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Saint Domingo said:
I honestly think it probably is just a reflection of a generations changing attitude to disposable income. Liverpool 1 was still booming during the recession, most people still had smart phones laptops etc. My generation just think nothing of ploughing into overdrafts to have money for non essentials. Generations before were making their Sunday lunch leftovers stretch over a few days, even at cheaper prices the match was a luxury some simply couldn't justify spending money on. Now you have lads at school age or in Uni without a job who get enough pocket money for a season ticket and European away trips.

I think this is them combined with the modern phenomenon of people having to be seen at 'events'. You could throw something that essentially resembles a car boot sale in the middle of town yet if you brand it right you can guarantee that the world and his wife will turn up looking for some sort of mass experience that they can be part of. It's also why you see people with no interest in football whatsoever going to el clasico just to 'experience' it. There's clearly a core of fans who go because they love Everton and love watching live football no question. I'm also certain there's a large number at any one game who probably aren't greatly fussed by either but it's better to be there than not just in case there's an incident or atmosphere that they might miss out on.

In short: modern lavishness plus FOMO culture = bigger crowds.
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Very good post.
It's worth mentioning as well that there is still loads of Evertonians, well football fans in general, who really do struggle to have the disposable income to go the game. Prices are still very much out of reach for many, I'm not just talking about unemployed either, people with families, mortgages on rising housing costs, child care costs leaves many with a very low disposable income.
 

Big Neville Southall said:
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Very good post.
It's worth mentioning as well that there is still loads of Evertonians, well football fans in general, who really do struggle to have the disposable income to go the game. Prices are still very much out of reach for many, I'm not just talking about unemployed either, people with families, mortgages on rising housing costs, child care costs leaves many with a very low disposable income.
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Yeah fully agreed, I feel sorry for some of the parents trying to take loads of kids along even for just one match, shouldn't be that way.
 
magicjuan said:
The obstructed views stuff is a nonsense, people used to watch from the church roof, not because they didn't want a post in their way but because they wanted to see us play and 'be there'.
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But it didn't used to cost £40 for a ticket.

The views definitely have an impact, a load of my mates won't go often because they refuse to spend £35-£40 on a ticket which might not even be classed as restricted view, but leaves you unable to see the ball when it's in the air etc. They'll happily buy a ticket off someone they know who can't make it, but won't take the chance of wasting money to watch through a letterbox. I'm talking about proper fans too, ex season ticket holders who've followed Everton all over Europe.
 
Our home attendance is pretty consistent these days but over time there were things like population, price, hooliganism
and even ground constructions to consider as factors.

Here are some attendance statistics at Goodison from 1959/60 which I'd struggle to explain.

Burnley 2-1 50,000
Leeds 3-2 31,000
Birmingham 3-1 39,000
Man Utd 3-2 64,000
Blackburn 2-2 52,000
West Ham 2-2 40,000
Chelsea 3-1 30,000
Portsmouth 2-1 23,000

These are consecutive matches.

Why the great fluctuation in crowd size then? I was probably at all those matches and I've no idea.
 
Jeff Jones said:
Our home attendance is pretty consistent these days but over time there were things like population, price, hooliganism
and even ground constructions to consider as factors.

Here are some attendance statistics at Goodison from 1959/60 which I'd struggle to explain.

Burnley 2-1 50,000
Leeds 3-2 31,000
Birmingham 3-1 39,000
Man Utd 3-2 64,000
Blackburn 2-2 52,000
West Ham 2-2 40,000
Chelsea 3-1 30,000
Portsmouth 2-1 23,000

These are consecutive matches.

Why the great fluctuation in crowd size then? I was probably at all those matches and I've no idea.
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What were the away followings like then mate?
 

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