When will we win a trophy next?
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can we close this
and re title it
“when we winning again “
and re title it
“when we winning again “
ForeverEverton
Player Valuation: £40m
I was 15 in 1995, watched the whole day on the BBC, Neville Southall rolled back the years, Stuart should have scored but thankfully Rideout was on hand for the rebound.
I didn`t ever think that would be the end of it, league champions in 87 and runner up in 89, I do not remember these 1st hand but I remember fellow Evertonians were saying after the 95 win we were coming back, we then won the Charity Shield with Vinny Samways goal. But that was it, a flash in the pan and as we moved in to the 2000`s we came runners up in 2009 but even after we went ahead I didn`t really believe we would win that game.
The 2010s came and went and now here we are in the 2020s, nearly 30 years on from our last trophy, I`ve seen every failure like going out of the UEFA CWC in 96 to Feyenoord, Regi Blinker scored the only goal in the second leg, I believe after that he went to Sheffield Wednesday.
Even in the season after our FA Cup win we finished 6th and it felt like we were coming back but that was soon extinguished, really those following seasons there was a belief we could get back to challenging, remember it was less than 10 years since our last league win. It soon became evident that was a false dawn.
Didn`t really get that sort of belief until 2005 when it started to become clear we could qualify for the Champions League, don`t forget we had finished 17th the season before but I felt even if we could get through to the group stage that would elevate the clubs profile, but we all know what happened the following season. Even though we got knocked out, rightly or wrongly, by Collina we went in to the UEFA Cup and even I thought we could go deep in to the competition but we got smashed 5-1 in the 1st leg of the 1st round by Dinnamo Bucuresti, another false dawn.
Since then as the decades and years have gone by I`ve just got used to being an also ran, even Ancelotti came in and although I was excited to see what he did I never felt he was going to bring Everton back to the elite which only 6 clubs are members, I suspect it will be 7 when the Saudi`s can get their money in to Newcastle.
After 30 years I just think it is too late for us now, we founded the Premier League with 4 other teams, they went on to commercialise whilst our chairman decided to run Everton like how it was in the 80s, football and football finance moved on and we got left behind, in part because our owners was never wealthy enough.
We had our chances, we had moments that would have made a difference but ultimately the club is no longer a respected football club and the sad reality is that 6 or 7 clubs will dominate, our only hope is that when there is a season they don`t win something we are there to capitalise.... This club will never be back winning trophies for whatever time I have left on this planet and I suspect they never will.
Apologies for the essay.....
I didn`t ever think that would be the end of it, league champions in 87 and runner up in 89, I do not remember these 1st hand but I remember fellow Evertonians were saying after the 95 win we were coming back, we then won the Charity Shield with Vinny Samways goal. But that was it, a flash in the pan and as we moved in to the 2000`s we came runners up in 2009 but even after we went ahead I didn`t really believe we would win that game.
The 2010s came and went and now here we are in the 2020s, nearly 30 years on from our last trophy, I`ve seen every failure like going out of the UEFA CWC in 96 to Feyenoord, Regi Blinker scored the only goal in the second leg, I believe after that he went to Sheffield Wednesday.
Even in the season after our FA Cup win we finished 6th and it felt like we were coming back but that was soon extinguished, really those following seasons there was a belief we could get back to challenging, remember it was less than 10 years since our last league win. It soon became evident that was a false dawn.
Didn`t really get that sort of belief until 2005 when it started to become clear we could qualify for the Champions League, don`t forget we had finished 17th the season before but I felt even if we could get through to the group stage that would elevate the clubs profile, but we all know what happened the following season. Even though we got knocked out, rightly or wrongly, by Collina we went in to the UEFA Cup and even I thought we could go deep in to the competition but we got smashed 5-1 in the 1st leg of the 1st round by Dinnamo Bucuresti, another false dawn.
Since then as the decades and years have gone by I`ve just got used to being an also ran, even Ancelotti came in and although I was excited to see what he did I never felt he was going to bring Everton back to the elite which only 6 clubs are members, I suspect it will be 7 when the Saudi`s can get their money in to Newcastle.
After 30 years I just think it is too late for us now, we founded the Premier League with 4 other teams, they went on to commercialise whilst our chairman decided to run Everton like how it was in the 80s, football and football finance moved on and we got left behind, in part because our owners was never wealthy enough.
We had our chances, we had moments that would have made a difference but ultimately the club is no longer a respected football club and the sad reality is that 6 or 7 clubs will dominate, our only hope is that when there is a season they don`t win something we are there to capitalise.... This club will never be back winning trophies for whatever time I have left on this planet and I suspect they never will.
Apologies for the essay.....
ForeverEverton
Player Valuation: £40m
Bang on cue....
Davideeyore
Player Valuation: £20m
A serious answer, is when the club are serious about winning trophies again.
When the club is run like a club that sees winning trophies as a target at the start of the season, sees us playing in Europe each season and sees us making title attempts. All of which are laughable and histerical right now. The Kenwright years made sure the club was no longer seen as a club that challenged for trophies
we just existed to make up the numbers. We're a worser club now than his sole ownership that takes some level of incompetence.
When the club is run like a club that sees winning trophies as a target at the start of the season, sees us playing in Europe each season and sees us making title attempts. All of which are laughable and histerical right now. The Kenwright years made sure the club was no longer seen as a club that challenged for trophies
we just existed to make up the numbers. We're a worser club now than his sole ownership that takes some level of incompetence.
Likewise
gonetomorrow
Player Valuation: £70m
If we unearth an Einstein of a manager anything is possible.
Maybe the League Cup or that European Conf thing in five years or so.
Maybe the League Cup or that European Conf thing in five years or so.
Mrbluenose
Player Valuation: £6m
Went with never on the basis that there is zero reason to believe we will win a trophy ever again 
No option for this so what the hell...
I think that is the most realistic opportunity for the majority of Premier League clubs, obviously you have to get there first.
We have had several Einstein like managers. He knew nothing about football either.
ForeverEverton
Player Valuation: £40m
This is why I believe the manager is the most essential part to building a club...
Would Liverpool be what they are now without Klopp, it wasn`t always rosey when he came in but you could see incremental improvements, would Utd be what they were now without having Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsenal without Wenger. The lists go on, it isn`t simply the fact that these managers tipped up just as the club get it all right.
The same with Everton, yes recruitment has been poor but I think the squad is in the main good, you don`t beat the teams we have beaten this season if you have nothing about you, which is why I get so frustrated when we play like last Saturday and that must come from the manager....
The manager can literally be the difference to the money bags clubs, look at Moyes for years and we were considered best of the rest, Di Zerbi at Brighton, Frank at Brentford. A good manager with a good attacking philosophy can bridge several gaps that others throw money at....
Just a shame we seem to bring in the wrong guy, don`t get me wrong Dyche is going to do what he was brought in to do, but like Allardyce before him, if the football doesn`t get better or becomes more progressive he will be out the door the second all our trials and tribulations are over. I could get on board if it was obvious he was trying to move to a more attacking style of play especially at home because 11 men behind the ball at home is costing us points.
A good manager is pivotal to any clubs progression........
SussexToffee1980
Player Valuation: £1m
Our best bet is the League Cup really. I give it 20 years at the very minimum.
