When did it go wrong ?

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When Howard left for Bilbao was the beginning of our downfall.
Colin Harvey buying sub standard players Neil Mcdonald,Stuart Mccall,Pat Nevin and Tony Cottee simply were not good enough!
 
1- the RS getting us banned from Europe at a time when we would have beaten anyone, players and mangers left and were inadequately replaced

2 - buying loads of gash players in the 90s for huge money

3 - Villareal game
 

Christ this is one depressing thread.

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The Ibrox Pound, with European football took us apart, by the time clubs got back into Europe we were strugglin to keep up financially and on the pitch, the ones that got back in got that boost of the money plus attracting players on the strength of it, so we were trying to catch up from a position where we were already way behind.
 
Almost 20 years ago, a group of chairmen met with a questionable chap from Australia and decided it would be in the best interests of the national game to do this:

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That was the turning point. Not just for us. But for the Norwiches, the Sheffields, the Forests. That was when a monopoly was established and no team would ever be able to reach the top through good management and old fashioned grit, only greater and greater amounts of money. I'm not pretending we weren't the "mersey millionaires" at one time. But from that moment on, only successive increases of unprecedented sums would be enough.
 

Lots to choose from but as my old fella says we've never been lucky have we - take your pick:

Being too stupid to not pay the rent increase in 1892
Champions twice - war breaks out
Tommy Lawton wanting to leave
Tommy Ring getting a broken leg
Drawing Inter Milan in the European Cup
Tony Kay
Panathinaikos getting away with murder & then having to play in the FA Cup semi 3 days later where:
Labby getting crocked against the Sh1te and we lose 2-1
Catterick falling out with Alan Ball
Catterick getting ill - the 60s side breaking up
John Connolly getting a broken leg (vs Altrincham) as we were cruising to the 1975 title
Chris Nicholl
Clive Sh1thouse Thomas
Extra-Extra-Extra-Extra Time at Old Trafford back in 1983
Hansen's handball
Whiteside's goal (against a very tired team)
Kendall's penchant for a drink (including losing Speed)
Dunc being sent to prison for something he did before he joined us
Poll
Villarreal draw for the CL
Clattenberg
Atkinson
 
For me the league cup semi v the Arse in 1988,we lost narrowly at home and then got webbed down there,two awful performances,the signs were there even back then that the glory days were behind us.
 

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