What is 'success' for Everton?

What is success for Everton?

  • Champions League Qualification

    Votes: 66 37.7%
  • Europa League Qualification

    Votes: 22 12.6%
  • Cup Win (FA or League Cup)

    Votes: 79 45.1%
  • Top 10 League Finish

    Votes: 8 4.6%

  • Total voters
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Takeover for me

Some oiled up nutcase using Everton to join in the pissing contest, who thinks that every trophy he brings adds inches to his dick
 
I voted for UEFA as it would be seen as a success in Roberto's first year, but really its Champs league and getting in on that cash cow.

Considering the management change, yeah...I see Euro as the expectation, so anything above that would be a success. Not that Euro's isn't a success but I would just be satisfied. CL would be exceeding expectation, for me, and that's a success...it's just individual semantics.

A cup's obviously great, I just view it the same as njligernj when you throw all three in the mixer. I can see why anyone would love a cup, it's permanent and can't be taken from you or disappear in a year like the CL can.
 
If the season was to finish tonight and we were in the top 6 I would be happy and still a little disappointed. I'd be happy that we'd lost the least amount of games and be very optimistic for the following campaign, happy with the squad harmony and morale, attitude, work ethic, positivity. But I'd look back and think we were shook at anfield, we never took the game to Palace and West Brom outplayed us.

But the season is still young and there's time yet. We have a cup game against Swansea which requires massive effort, two big away days in February in the capital. Arsenal, City and Utd all at home (rivals) still to play and everything is still to play for. Four points off 4th isn't bad at this stage, we still have everything to play for.

Now if we don't kick on and have real go against every opposition and we roll over to teams like Sunderland and Southampton away, not forgetting Newcastle, then I would look back at the season as a disappointment. We are in top 4 contention and have been floating around this position all season, if we are to fall now and finish 6th or 7th I will be hugely disappointed because to be within grasp of something after 23 games and to lose that in the final 15 is shocking and this should be the time we see a much improved Everton.
 

Lol @ 4 top ten finish guys.

Either wind ups or Phil Neville, David Moyes, Steve Round and David James have GOT accounts.
 
I'd argue that Top 4 is the most successful. Whilst i agree that you don't get any prizes for finishing 4th, and it won't go on our honours, for me, pitting our wits against 19 other teams over the course of the season, to Qualify for the Champions league is a great achievement.

I'd love a trophy, i have never seen us win one, but as we've seen so far, We've faces QPR, Stevenage and now Swansea is upcoming, in the kindest respects, it's not the same as turning up at Arsenal and United, and making them brick themselves, we could end up getting a League one side in the Quarters, and then a Championship in the Semi's/Final. Whilst winning the cup would be a momentous event, in these situations it's not the biggest success we can get.

I'll probably get lambasted for this. But to build on our success, and not be a flash in the pan like Swansea or Wigan etc, Top 4 could cement huge cash windfall, which could set the club up for years, propelling us to trophy success for years to come. With this squad it's easily possible.

For me: Success is a trophy.
Bigger picture: Finishing 4th.
 

CL spot for me.

The FA Cup is talked about during the season but the top four is talked about ALL season. A top four finish, in my eyes, would raise our standing globally as opposed to an FA Cup win (my second choice).

Then there is the potential financial benefits from being in the CL competition, the ability to attract players of CL caliber, paying down debt, etc....

For Everton, I think it has to be a CL spot first, then an FA Cup.
 
For me success would be getting an owner and a board that would back the manager properly and bring the club into the 21st century. Success would be being able to compete on a level playing field with the other top teams.
 
Do you think there is a bit of a generational difference at play here? I'm not saying there aren't teenagers and people in their 20's who would answer FA Cup -- I know this is the internet but not everything needs to be 100% to have a correlation.

As TX Bill says above: top four is talked about almost as much as the title race these days. If you're growing up now I'm not sure how or why you wouldn't value it extremely highly -- at least as much as the FA Cup if not more. I know it rubs some people the wrong way -- whether it *should* be this way is another conversation entirely -- but I wonder if age plays a role to some extent? Maybe not ... who the hell knows. Ultimately it's a bit of supermodel A or supermodel B ... we'd be over the moon to have a shot at either.
 
Should be a win the league option in line with the club's motto.

As there's no league option, I've gone for cup.

Success is relative, I guess, but the aim should be to win things.
 
Yes we've been more successful than previously. But that doesn't make us a success.

We're Everton. Success is Premier League champions. Or does NSNO mean something else?
 
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