What If, Poll

[Goat]

Me and my mate and a long discussion Yesterday before the game.

We have decided that after 14 Years in our current seats and numerous Years before that with different Season Tickets that this Year will be our last.

A number of factors.

Boring football, selling of players, bellend Boardroom, lack of enjoyment and the sheer outlay each March/April and then getting shat on all Summer.

We will still attend the odd game, but we will no longer blindly support a Boardroom that has failed so long and so hard.

So take into account that we are a party of 5, theres 5 STs that wont be renewed this Year.

I guess Bill really is the no.1 Evertonian in the World.

 

[ijjysmith]

Me and my mate and a long discussion Yesterday before the game.

We have decided that after 14 Years in our current seats and numerous Years before that with different Season Tickets that this Year will be our last.

A number of factors.

Boring football, selling of players, bellend Boardroom, lack of enjoyment and the sheer outlay each March/April and then getting shat on all Summer.

We will still attend the odd game, but we will no longer blindly support a Boardroom that has failed so long and so hard.

So take into account that we are a party of 5, theres 5 STs that wont be renewed this Year.

I guess Bill really is the no.1 Evertonian in the World.

Can't blame you mate.

Do you think Bill realises this is going to happen to a lot of season ticket holders!?

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Pressure should be placed on the board, not the manager or the team. The manager is an easy target as he's highly visible. Kenwright and Earl are the ones who own 48% of our club who are failing to give him the tools to do his job.

Actually he does have the tools to do his job.

Sure, they aren't the most expensive top of the range tools but he certainly has some good tools to use.

But instead of using a screwdriver to tighten a screw, or a spanner to undo a nut he used a chisel to saw through a piece of wood when he has a decent saw sat in his toolbox.

And then complains he doesn't have the most expensive tools like everybody else instead of using the ones he does correctly.

And even when his trusty top of the range black and decker jigsaw is on its last legs he persists with it rather than using the cheapo but effective Bosch version cause its new and he doesn't know how to use it properly.

 

[Goat]

Can't blame you mate.

Do you think Bill realises this is going to happen to a lot of season ticket holders!?

I doubt he cares mate.

Hes living in a bubble, I honestly think he blames the BU for everything.

Things like him not being able to sell a Club which he stripped every single assest thats not a player, ran up debts approaching 100m and then not being able to sell for 150m, whilst he paid only 20m, thats all the BU.

 

[Goat]

Actually he does have the tools to do his job.

Sure, they aren't the most expensive top of the range tools but he certainly has some good tools to use.

But instead of using a screwdriver to tighten a screw, or a spanner to undo a nut he used a chisel to saw through a piece of wood when he has a decent saw sat in his toolbox.

And then complains he doesn't have the most expensive tools like everybody else instead of using the ones he does correctly.

And even when his trusty top of the range black and decker jigsaw is on its last legs he persists with it rather than using the cheapo but effective Bosch version cause its new and he doesn't know how to use it properly.

And which tools could he have used Yesterday?

The tools he has left are all broken, none of them do the job needed.

Its all well and good calling Moyes when he plays Neville and Heitinga in midfield, but Yesterday, he played POSSIBLY the best team he could and made Subs to try and change the game.

The players we have are not good enough and thats down to selling our good 1s and replacing them with players like Gibson, who are simply not good enough.

 

[tommye]

Can't blame you mate.

Do you think Bill realises this is going to happen to a lot of season ticket holders!?

after speaking to a few blues (s.t. holders) recently about this and reckon S.T. sales will be down by at least 5000 next season. The board will not care. They will continue to hold out for top dollar on their non investment. [Poor language removed].

 

[Xavi]

You're missing the point by a rather large margin.

We all 'support' Everton, some of us have been going to matches for decades.

The current incarnation of Everton Football Club is being run extremely badly. What's happening on the pitch is simply a by-product of the complete inertia off it. We could have Jose Mourinho or Pep Guiadiola working under the same restrictions and with the same group of players and we'd still do just as ****.

If you have a board in place who do absolutely **** all offering nothing - a board consisting of 4 people (none of whom work full time for the club ) - a theatre impressario, a twice-bankrupt tax exile, an anonymous man who says/does/offers nothing, and an 84 year old token shareholder - and there is no money, no plan in place except a failed and failing business plan, what exactly do you expect to happen?

Pressure should be placed on the board, not the manager or the team. The manager is an easy target as he's highly visible. Kenwright and Earl are the ones who own 48% of our club who are failing to give him the tools to do his job.

Nobody is going to 'stop supporting Everton'. That's just a stupid thing to post. People may be selective with the games they attend though, because the only thing this board appears to understand is their wallets and their greed. And if the team goes down, then they are as screwed as the rest of the club and the fans. Their own greed in wanting a massive amount of money for the club is what is costing us at the moment, and they need to be told in no uncertain times that they cannot continue to want this.

Even if people 'Attend Goodison, once a blue, always a blue!', a very laudable sentiment, but I'd imagine the vast majority do so with a heavy heart. They're not doing so to support the incompetent board, that's for sure.

As much as I think Moyes form as a manager has been poor now for 18 months , because a managers form can change like a player of course it can, his belief's for what the team needs and his tactics have gone backwards ,but I fully agree with more or less everything you've wrote there TBH, I don't believe any manager could have any success working under Bill Kenwright

 

[Seamus Colemole]

And which tools could he have used Yesterday?

The tools he has left are all broken, none of them do the job needed.

Its all well and good calling Moyes when he plays Neville and Heitinga in midfield, but Yesterday, he played POSSIBLY the best team he could and made Subs to try and change the game.

The players we have are not good enough and thats down to selling our good 1s and replacing them with players like Gibson, who are simply not good enough.

Of course its very difficult, but you'd think that 3 times LMA manager of the year winner and second best pound for pound manager in the last 15 years would make the most of the tools he does have at his disposal and use them correctly.

Do that and then you can complain about not having tools and it will be justified. At the moment lack of tools is only one part of the problem.

 

[RFUS]

The players we have are not good enough and thats down to selling our good 1s and replacing them with players like Gibson, who are simply not good enough.

I love you Goat lad but that's the worst sentence I've seen on here since I put Damon on ignore.

What aren't they good enough for, mate? Not good enough to beat Blackburn? Not good enough to be higher than 14th?

We had a lot of injuries yesterday but we had Donovan, Drenthe, Baines and Fellaini out there -- all top class players. Hoilett-aside, I wouldn't want a single one of Blackburn's XI yesterday in our line up.

Our board being gash is one thing, and our manager being gash is another. You don't have to pick a side, like it's black and white; one or the other. Our board have put us in a difficult situation, but Moyes is a highly paid professional and someone who in the past has achieved things like 4th place finishews with gash squads. Whilst I don't expect the same, if you don't expect more than what he's getting out of them right now then you have to be crazy.

 

[Goat]

Of course its very difficult, but you'd think that 3 times LMA manager of the year winner and second best pound for pound manager in the last 15 years would make the most of the tools he does have at his disposal and use them correctly.

Do that and then you can complain about not having tools and it will be justified. At the moment lack of tools is only one part of the problem.

I personally feel that Moyes tactics and subs have been utter shat this Season at times, but the last 2 games he has put out the best side he could and we have been beyond poor.

Its the result of 2 Years of player sales with no new players coming in, Loans and pity buys from United dont count.

Of course some of the blame must rest with Moyes, as I said, some of his tactics this Season have been beyond bad and he constant picking of Saha is baffling, any fool can see that he simply cant play football anymore.

Anyway, thats me done with this Club after this Season.

I will always be an Everton fan, I love the Club, ive always loved the Club, but I cant support its current state, its way too painful.

Im not a glory hunter, during the Smith Years I used to attend around 30 games Home and Away and that was beyond awful, but I always felt that the Board and the players shared a will to advance, now it just makes me sad watching.

 

[Goat]

I love you Goat lad but that's the worst sentence I've seen on here since I put Damon on ignore.

What aren't they good enough for, mate? Not good enough to beat Blackburn? Not good enough to be higher than 14th?

We had a lot of injuries yesterday but we had Donovan, Drenthe, Baines and Fellaini out there -- all top class players. Hoilett-aside, I wouldn't want a single one of Blackburn's XI yesterday in our line up.

Our board being gash is one thing, and our manager being gash is another. You don't have to pick a side, like it's black and white; one or the other. Our board have put us in a difficult situation, but Moyes is a highly paid professional and someone who in the past has achieved things like 4th place finishews with gash squads. Whilst I don't expect the same, if you don't expect more than what he's getting out of them right now then you have to be crazy.

So why didnt we beat Blackburn then?

I should have said SOME of our players arent good enough and some of are just playing so poorly its unreal.

Saha cant even control a ball.
Gibson goes missing for 80minutes a game, I KNOW hes new, so he of course gets a lot of leeway.
Neville offers NOTHING but pointing.
Big forehead is utter gash so far, I think he thinks hes still playing MLS.
Drenthe came on and fell over the ball everytime he touched it.

I could go on.

 

[The Equaliser]

The off-the-field shenanigans are having an effect on the players - there's no doubt about it. Even though it shouldn't happen, it does.

The lack of competition for places is also having an effect. Again, it shouldn't happen, but it does.

This all leads to a general lack of confidence, which is our main on-field problem at the moment.

 

[snipellis11]

I will always give my full support to Everton, whatever happens, I would never turn my back on them. I think we have to just face the facts, the longer we don't get any invesment the worse we are going to get, we can't keep up with the other teams who are spending money, which is most teams in the league. But let's face it, if we stopped supporting Everton life would never be the same.

 

[harry]

I won't be going again after Newcastle home game. If we get a manager who wants us to play football I will come back.

I am not a glory hunter but at the very least we should be playing entertaining football for the fans that shell out a lot of money on this club.

It's the club what have failed the fans not the other way round.

 

[icburns]

FFS, the meltdown sorcery has taken me here.