We are on the road

[evertony]

Spot on @matty1878
We have been crap and flirting with relegation for a few years now, yet just 13 games into the season some people are moaning because we are not in the European places.
To provide some perspective - we have more points at this stage (13 games in) than we've had since we had that miraculous start to the season under Carlo Ancelotti.
Now don't get me wrong, we are still very poor and there's reasons to expect that we should be able to turn things around much faster, BUT there IS progress.
That's not an opinion, it's a fact.

There is progress and there is progress. Are we better than last season in total…I’d say yes, but not by significant margins. Are we better on the eye than last year…..again, I’d say yes, but only in a few games whilst in others we’ve been as bad as previous.

Is the level of progress enough to even keep pace with the likes of Villa, Newcastle, Spurs and even Brighton and Bournemouth? I don’t think so personally. If we don’t keep pace with them we effectively get left further behind and that really isn’t progress.

I would have concern giving Moyes another summer transfer kitty as I don’t believe he’s the manager to take us into next season. I’d shake his hand, thank him for his services and move on.

 

[evertony]

No it's something Moyes has done all his career - it's why I didnt want him back, nor advocate him long term.

Mentality and belief is massive in the game - he puts his own ego and self PR ahead of every club. He downplays expectations at every turn - he rehashed knife to a gunfight continually and it breeds a mentality of club captain Phil Neville "be thankful of what you have midtable is great for a club like Everton"

He knew what new owners and fans needed to hear last season and in the summer talking up Europe, but as soon as his feet is under the table it's normal service resumed.

Me? I wouldn't sack him now. I wouldn't if we lose the next 5.

But I'll raise a drink when he leaves - hopefully the day after the final home game.

My position entirely.

 

[paultheblue]

No it's something Moyes has done all his career - it's why I didnt want him back, nor advocate him long term.

Mentality and belief is massive in the game - he puts his own ego and self PR ahead of every club. He downplays expectations at every turn - he rehashed knife to a gunfight continually and it breeds a mentality of club captain Phil Neville "be thankful of what you have midtable is great for a club like Everton"

He knew what new owners and fans needed to hear last season and in the summer talking up Europe, but as soon as his feet is under the table it's normal service resumed.

Me? I wouldn't sack him now. I wouldn't if we lose the next 5.

But I'll raise a drink when he leaves - hopefully the day after the final home game.

I agree with everything you except you wouldnt sack him even if he lost the next 5 .
If that happened that would include losing the 5th game to Burnley and would most likely have us in the bottom 3 and surely he would have to go.
People say he is a safe pair of hands but i doubt Sunderland fans would agree as when he was with them he talked about relegation before a ball was kicked.
David Moyes never accepts that the blame lies with him and in his own mind he is a far better manager than
HIs true statistics tell us , he is not the man to take us back to the top table.

 

[Clarky cat]

Evertonian Liberation Day.

May 12th 2013?