VAR

[Tony’s Carp]

That'll go a bit under the radar because we won anyway and because there isn't a proper MOTD to analyse it, but I thought that was a very dodgy call, and a very dodgy process. There is nothing clear and obvious to overturn the ref's call and surely the most VAR should be doing is sending the ref to the monitor?

 

[Andy is the King]

It's like rugby league - every try is scrutinised from every possible angle. The ref & touch judges are too inept to make decisions. The video ref spends 20mins trying to find reasons not to award the try. If the ball even scrapes an attacking player's jersey it's deemed a knock on. Sport was never meant to be played like this.

Of course, if a VAR decision keep us in the Prem I'll sing the praises of modern technology

 

[Andy is the King]

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Depends who you are

 

[Seamus Colemole]

….some might have mentioned, but I have an opinion on that decision.

When a goal is scored the referee turns and points to the centre circle but after the Gray incident I immediately noticed he pointed to his arm.

I wonder if he told VAR that he thought it was handball & the officials saw nothing clear to overturn that decision. A bit like the ‘soft signal’ in cricket, there needed to be something ‘clear and obvious’ to allow the goal.

For what it’s worth, I was sure it was a goal, it wouldn’t have been disallowed for other clubs.

Yeah he didn't award the goal, he made the "just wait a minute" gesture with his left arm, next thing we saw was it being reviewed. And i reckon that will be the get out used by PGMOL/Dermot Gallagher, that the onfield ref disallowed it for handball and their wasnt enough evidence that he made a "clear and obvious error" to over rule it because they couldn't say 100% for sure that there wasn't even the slightest of contacts between ball and arm.

 

[billybadger]

Serious question… wondering how many if any VAR decisions have gone our way?

 

[Joey66]

Depends who you are

That ball is shoulder height, not hand ball

 

[arch stanton]

Lads it both arms before going in the net. If Toney did it the other end, you'd want it ruled out.

lad, it has to hit the arm below the level of the sleeve of the shirt to be handballl. It wasnt

 

[arch stanton]

Not seen the other game but the handball law differs depending on whether attacking and defending. If a handball directly influences a goal, its ruled out no matter how intentional/unintentional. Whereas if defending, it needs to be kind of deliberat and or in an unnatural position.

but if it isn't handball because of what the rules say about where it needs to hit the arm, it isnt hand ball regardless of defender or attacker

 

[Kantareller]

Still fuming. Even if it hits the arm it's on the end of the short arm sleeve which is acceptable.

 

[arch stanton]

Isn’t there a caveat in the laws of the game that states that if the ball touches hand / arm and directly goes into the net it is disallowed accidental or not? Having said that there is no conclusive evidence I can see that it did hit the arm so they are guessing so it is not correcting an obvious error

it has to touch below the sleeve line these days, not even close!

 

[joey_macmo]

It’s the right hand/wrist it hits, I think it’s relatively clear on the videos tbh.

Even these screen shots too can see how his right arm cannons back after it’s hit it. That coupled with the spin on the ball and I think it’s fair enough tbh.

I’d be going mental if it wasn’t given the other way.

 

[arch stanton]

It’s the right hand/wrist it hits, I think it’s relatively clear on the videos tbh.

Even these screen shots too can see how his right arm cannons back after it’s hit it. That coupled with the spin on the ball and I think it’s fair enough tbh.

I’d be going mental if it wasn’t given the other way.

no, it came past his right wrist, hit his chest to the left side, and went in. there was a clip on the feed saw with a split screen. What they do with the analysis of the footage is really flawed. Would you like to go to gaol on the back of this kind of analysis? Its horrific.

 

[degsy]

Depends who you are

This

 

[Lee Smith]

Was at the match but only now catching up on the highlights. That disallowed goal is a vile decision. Was sat in PE and at first it looked dubious live, but the replays show it clearly hit the “legal” top of his arm and should have stood. Then you have the Brentford player blatantly hand balling it moments after Iwobi’s chance, which from memory didn’t even go to a VAR review. Get VAR in the ‘kin bin and keep it there FFS.

 

[Look to the future]

Still can’t believe it was disallowed, imagine If we didn’t get the win. Think we still need an explanation on why VAR disallowed it.