VAR

[arch stanton]

there should be an 'umpires call' type ruling like in cricket that if its a marginal decision, the var decision should align with the on field official . Anyway, its taking the fun out of the game, it will soon be the focal point rather than decent footy being the focal point

 

[kev101]

Oh ok what about the other 4000 that yelled out when they scored?

That was day one, watch what happens over time.

 

[mrb85]

They don't. People celebrated every goal when it went into the net. They might get nervous after but they still reacted the same.

Nonesense mate. There's celebration and there's celebration. Basically, any time you score a goal there's a delay until confirmed. So much for the spontaneous excitement of football.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Nonesense mate. There's celebration and there's celebration. Basically, any time you score a goal there's a delay until confirmed. So much for the spontaneous excitement of football.

Right.

 

[mrb85]

Most of those conversations stem from an ignorance of the laws of the game by paid pundits and are by far the most tedious part of football coverage. Whatever floats your boat but if you get your excitement from a close call then doesn't those few seconds of VAR review lend to the tension?
And given the number of laws that are open to interpretation, a factor that is often highlighted by VAR, then the perceived dodgy decisions will still be there.

The "could have been a different result" conversations are the clearest indicator that the subject clearly doesn't warrant a conversation. If you have to jump off into what is essentially multiverse theory based fiction to fill the minutes then maybe it's time to cut down on the coverage.




Except they've clearly continued to do so since VAR came in.



There seems to be a narrative that VAR is going to lead to the disallowing of loads of goals that would previously have been given. The fact is that many attacking moves have often been incorrectly halted by the human eye's tendency to be deceived by fast movement, the pressure on officials to make the right decision and those crucial few millimetres.

Done correctly the safety net of VAR can also encourage benefit of the doubt being given to attacking sides and for spurious offsides to have less of an impact. The offsides that aren't flagged due to that safety net may well lead to many more goalscoring opportunities developing.

Totally perplexed by that mate. It doesn't matter if this so called safety net applies and a move allowed to continue -- if the move ends up in a goal but is then shown to have included an offside in the build up it will be chalked off.

 

[mrb85]

This is the problem for me. People are mad because they don't like VAR when in reality it is put in place to protect the integrity of the game for the players. So to me it is up to them to say we want it out. If they are ok with it then it should stay.

Or fans can leave the game in mass. But that isn't happening.

Christ, there's only been one set of games! Give it time, it will kill the game.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Christ, there's only been one set of games! Give it time, it will kill the game.

Germany has had it for multiple years and they still celebrate goals

 

[mrb85]

Do you not think that the line official could be more inclined to play attacking advantage with the knowledge that if they're wrong then VAR will rectify the mistake if it leads to a goal or similar game changing event? We've all seen flags go up when a player is onside just because the run is so well executed that it fools the defenders and the line official.

And whether it is foot, shoulder or any other part of the body with which a goal can be scored offside is offside. Not sure what this "made up line" is? The law is about being inline with another player rather than a set or imaginary line - drawing a line on VAR is just a way to visually check whether or not they're in-line.

For what it's worth I'd like to see the law changed to be more like rules around the ball being in or out of play. For a player to be offside their entire body should be offside rather than any small part they can legally play the ball with. But even for that you'd have to draw an imaginary line at some point if it's a tight call.

But wasn't City's goal yesterday disallowed because the guy's arm was offside? I don't recall scoring with your arm being legalised.....

 

[ClausThomsen]

Totally perplexed by that mate. It doesn't matter if this so called safety net applies and a move allowed to continue -- if the move ends up in a goal but is then shown to have included an offside in the build up it will be chalked off.

And if there is no offside it will be given. Whereas if an overcautious line assistant is flagging for a non existent offside then there's absolutely no chance of that goal - the safety net potentially reduces those incorrect flags.

 

[N.S.N.O.]

there should be an 'umpires call' type ruling like in cricket that if its a marginal decision, the var decision should align with the on field official . Anyway, its taking the fun out of the game, it will soon be the focal point rather than decent footy being the focal point

Exactly how is it taking the fun out of the game?..... Players and fans still celebrate when they score... Sometimes there might then be a delay in kicking off again while goals are checked... Only wrong goals are disallowed

 

[mrb85]

And if there is no offside it will be given. Whereas if an overcautious line assistant is flagging for a non existent offside then there's absolutely no chance of that goal - the safety net potentially reduces those incorrect flags.

And if there is no offside it will be given. Whereas if an overcautious line assistant is flagging for a non existent offside then there's absolutely no chance of that goal - the safety net potentially reduces those incorrect flags.

Sure.....but adds to a reduction in reaction to goals being scored.

 

[summerisle]

 

[emir]

Germans have embraced VAR for a couple of seasons.....while the English and other Europeans are staunchly against technology. Germans are the most forward thinking Europeans out there and all this makes complete sense why their economy is so great, coupled with their historical football success.

 

[Kurt.]

If it can’t be implemented at the lowest level of the game then it shouldn’t be used at the top end. Football is built on talking points, mistakes and contentious decisions ... you can’t implement a system that is not accessible to the sport as a whole in my opinion.

 

[Michaelcoyb]

We will have atleast 10 goals ruled out by VAR this season.