Usmanov

[Yarrgh]

An honest to god spreadsheet and an argument about Amazon's borrowing.

Bet Alisher if he was reading this would be off to a shelter against some kind of bombs.

 

[catcherintherye]

You knew what Amazon's WACC was because you looked it up. The problem was you thought it was the same as the interest rate they were paying on debt.

You told us Bezos was happy to borrow at 8% because Amazon's WACC was 8%. It is probably one of the funniest but most ill-informed posts I have ever seen and that truly is saying something.

I have no idea where you would even look WACC up, it's not in the balance sheet etc. It's a calculation, which I performed to tell you what Amazons cost to access capital was.

And Bezos is happy to pay 8% to access capital. As I indicated earlier this is a subtle difference from borrowing (though borrowing is part of the calculation) but in this example it's not a critical one. The key is, Bezos is happy to pay 8% to have access to capital, so the existence of a 7% fee to borrow capital does not automatically mean Usmanov isnt involved (or that he is involved). You cant generalise from it.

 

[catcherintherye]

Is there anything I can offer to help inflame the situation further lads?

Can Trevor Azul give any inside information that I am in fact Donald Trump on the side (and you lot are a bunch of red neck hicks).

 

[Death]

You knew what Amazon's WACC was because you looked it up. The problem was you thought it was the same as the interest rate they were paying on debt.

You told us Bezos was happy to borrow at 8% because Amazon's WACC was 8%. It is probably one of the funniest but most ill-informed posts I have ever seen and that truly is saying something.

You're WACC.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Can Trevor Azul give any inside information that I am in fact Donald Trump on the side (and you lot are a bunch of red neck hicks).

You can string coherent sentences together. You are not Donald Trump.

 

[gwladysnight]

I have no idea where you would even look WACC up, it's not in the balance sheet etc. It's a calculation, which I performed to tell you what Amazons cost to access capital was.

And Bezos is happy to pay 8% to access capital. As I indicated earlier this is a subtle difference from borrowing (though borrowing is part of the calculation) but in this example it's not a critical one. The key is, Bezos is happy to pay 8% to have access to capital, so the existence of a 7% fee to borrow capital does not automatically mean Usmanov isnt involved (or that he is involved). You cant generalise from it.

Digging even deeper Catcher.

Amazon are borrowing at just over 2% that is a two-second calculation. You brought WACC in to it because you thought that was the same as the interest rate that they are paying on the money they have borrowed.

You haven't even realised the really stupid part of what you have posted. In order to calculate WACC you have to determine the Cost of debt.

As for not knowing how to look up WACC up. Again it is a two second google search. Yesterday you were telling us you flip companies and make massive profits in 3-6 months. Today you are telling us you don't know how to use google.

 

[chicoazul]

Can Trevor Azul give any inside information that I am in fact Donald Trump on the side (and you lot are a bunch of red neck hicks).

Jeff Bezos is in for buying Newcastle. Cheers. TA.

 

[catcherintherye]

Digging even deeper Catcher.

Amazon are borrowing at just over 2% that is a two-second calculation. You brought WACC in to it because you thought that was the same as the interest rate that they are paying on the money they have borrowed.

You haven't even realised the really stupid part of what you have posted. In order to calculate WACC you have to determine the Cost of debt.

As for not knowing how to look up WACC up. Again it is a two second google search. Yesterday you were telling us you flip companies and make massive profits in 3-6 months.

Oh god, you just wont give up either.

You're right, nobody acquires capital at above 7%, Putin gave Moshiri and Usmanov all their money and you cant make a profit on an investment in a 3-6 month time frame. The tooth fairies also real

On the evidence of a bloke who doesnt understand what a loan is, or an investment is, Usmanov cant be involved.

 

[catcherintherye]

Jeff Bezos is in for buying Newcastle. Cheers. TA.

Unfortunately that just wont work currently.

I'm amazed how angry hes got because someone has offered an alternative viewpoint. The fact he even posted a spreadsheet was the ultimate though.

 

[catcherintherye]

You knew what Amazon's WACC was because you looked it up. The problem was you thought it was the same as the interest rate they were paying on debt.

You told us Bezos was happy to borrow at 8% because Amazon's WACC was 8%. It is probably one of the funniest but most ill-informed posts I have ever seen and that truly is saying something.

Saying that Jeff Bezos is happy to access capital at 8% because Amazon access capital at 8% is the most ill informed post you've ever seen?

From the guy who thinks Putin gifted Moshiri and Usmanov all their money.

 

[BrendanGOT]

Digging even deeper Catcher.

Amazon are borrowing at just over 2% that is a two-second calculation. You brought WACC in to it because you thought that was the same as the interest rate that they are paying on the money they have borrowed.

You haven't even realised the really stupid part of what you have posted. In order to calculate WACC you have to determine the Cost of debt.

As for not knowing how to look up WACC up. Again it is a two second google search. Yesterday you were telling us you flip companies and make massive profits in 3-6 months. Today you are telling us you don't know how to use google.

Bro stfu spamming the page about Amazon just to feed your know it all secret king BS ego. No one cares. I come here to read about Usmanov not about how big or small Jeff Bezos' WACC is.

 

[matty1878]

Cool so you don't care that we are borrowing £100m+ at 7% instead of 2% because the banks won't touch us.

we are spending end off

 

[matty1878]

I still think this is the best response in the whole debate lollollol played Matty lad

lol

 

[Yarrgh]

Are we still all on the old waccy baccy or did the spreadsheet scare us straight.

 

[MichiganToffee-NSNO]

I see this thread is about Amazon? Can anyone tell me why we are talking about Usmanov??